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Old 09-01-21, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Jack Tone
I watched the whole GNC preview of the new groupset, and the said that DuraAce and Ultegra would be available in rim brake versions. I'm not sure if they would be wireless, though.
Not wireless. It’s the old brifters with new plugs for the new wires.
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Old 09-01-21, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Jack Tone
I watched the whole GNC preview of the new groupset, and the said that DuraAce and Ultegra would be available in rim brake versions. I'm not sure if they would be wireless, though.
My understanding is for rim version you need wires. The new wireless shifters are apparently only being made for hydraulic disc brakes.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
Only the disc brake versions are wireless. Also, the rim brake STIs don't get the new shape.
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Not wireless. It’s the old brifters with new plugs for the new wires.
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My understanding is for rim version you need wires. The new wireless shifters are apparently only being made for hydraulic disc brakes.
Well, that sucks for those of us who would like to upgrade without wires.
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Old 09-01-21, 10:47 AM
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I wish I had time to watch live cycling events. When we lived in the city I had all kinds of time. Out here en el campo, there is always something that needs doing. In rainy season anyway, which will be coming to a close in the next month or so. But so will live cycling events.
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Old 09-01-21, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Jack Tone
Well, that sucks for those of us who would like to upgrade without wires.
Could these wireless shifters be hacked? Curious.
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Old 09-01-21, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
Cold is cold.
Nope.
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Originally Posted by seedsbelize
I wish I had time to watch live cycling events. When we lived in the city I had all kinds of time. Out here en el campo, there is always something that needs doing. In rainy season anyway, which will be coming to a close in the next month or so. But so will live cycling events.
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
Cold is cold.
Cold is idiotic.
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Old 09-01-21, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Cold is idiotic.
One thing you and I can agree upon.
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Originally Posted by seedsbelize
Could these wireless shifters be hacked? Curious.
In the GNC interview with the Shimano tech, he said during testing there was a lot of interference from all the wireless tech around, like planes, camera bikes, etc. So they developed a new wireless platform? I'm curious how many different signals there can be till, in a 100 person peloton, somebody isn't shifting someone else's bike.
Funny story, in high school I took an auto shop class. The teacher gave me some keys and said go to the teacher's parking lot, bring the white Olds back for a tune up. He got his tune up, but his parking spot was gone, so I parked it somewhere else. Later that day, a teacher called the office to say his car was gone, another teacher called the shop and asked when he was going to get his tuneup.
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Originally Posted by Jack Tone
Well, that sucks for those of us who would like to upgrade without wires.
Correct
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Originally Posted by Jack Tone
I'm curious how many different signals there can be till, in a 100 person peloton, somebody isn't shifting someone else's bike.
I'm pretty confident that they've moved the technology significantly beyond the late 80's RC cars of my youth.
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Cold can #DIAF.
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Old 09-01-21, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
Cold can #DIAF.
Die In A Freeze?
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Originally Posted by datlas
Die In A Freeze?
That wouldn’t kill cold though. No no, fire kills cold. #science
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Old 09-01-21, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by seedsbelize
Could these wireless shifters be hacked? Curious.
Like the Cinzano boys did to Dave Stohler?
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
That wouldn’t kill cold though. No no, fire kills cold. #science
I'm not sure of that. Every so often, you see pictures of the aftermath of fires in the winter in the North, where the water used to put out the fire freezes artistically.
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
One thing you and I can agree upon.
As well as the pageantry of SEC sports.

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Well, the offer expired on that Litespeed frame without me buying it. Must not have been jonesing THAT badly.
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Be careful out there, folks.

At the very tail end of my ride I came across a rider on the ground on the MUP. Said he just wasn't paying attention and went off the side of the path. When he tried to get back on he fell and now very likely has a broken hip

Another gentleman and I hung out until he got picked up. Thankfully he was only 20 yards or so from a road intersection.
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Be careful out there, folks.

At the very tail end of my ride I came across a rider on the ground on the MUP. Said he just wasn't paying attention and went off the side of the path. When he tried to get back on he fell and now very likely has a broken hip

Another gentleman and I hung out until he got picked up. Thankfully he was only 20 yards or so from a road intersection.
Yikes!
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
Cold can #DIAF.
Thought you want to move to New York? Particularly to a part of New York where it snows an average of 5' per year, and is an area that is considered cold to very cold/freezing seven months of the year.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
I'm not sure of that. Every so often, you see pictures of the aftermath of fires in the winter in the North, where the water used to put out the fire freezes artistically.
Well then the problem is not enough fire, obvs. The theory is sound.
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Had a dream my best friends dad wrecked my breakaway. Borrowed it without asking and returned it without telling me.

Went for a ride and the rear wheel was bent to hell and the rear de reailer was bent.

Been awake now for about 30 mins, well aware it was a dream, but I am still angry at him.

I wonder how angry I would be if it were true.
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
Thought you want to move to New York? Particularly to a part of New York where it snows an average of 5' per year, and is an area that is considered cold to very cold/freezing seven months of the year.
NY is a maybe (but the likeliest one). And I don’t like specifically that aspect, but I’ve lived with it before. Critically though, the events of the past 18 months have made it clear that AG and I are horribly isolated out here in Texas. In NY we’d be in single-tank driving distance of relatives in three states, including the ancestral homestead. Are the past 18 months an outlier and things are about to get back to normal? I sadly don’t think so, and we’d rather be around her parents and most of my family for the foreseeable future.

I’m also capable of cold-adapting. That’s part of why I’m getting back to running.
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