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Old 12-13-11, 02:22 PM
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Colnago Super

I got around to taking apart my Colnago Super. The plan is to reuse as many parts that came on it as possible and try and get the original paint looking decent.

I still do not know the year of the bike, and it seems that it was upgraded in the early 80's with Phil Hubs and a couple of other bits.

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Old 12-13-11, 04:45 PM
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That's a great frame and the Molteni color is awsome. It's well worth alittle elbow grease. The decals still look good and it looks like the paint will buff out reasonably well to. Any idea how your going to go about it? Are the Campy bits still good?
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I think they added TT cable guides in the mid 70's so it's no newer than that......
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Old 12-13-11, 05:36 PM
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Very cool project.

I hope to be doing the same thing to a Super.

My youngest son and I will be going down a similar road together, although the one I am getting looks to be in good shape parts wise.

We'll be starting soon.
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Is that cool or what. My first thought was go after the whole frame with polishing compound. Then I though ...maybe not. Those down tube decals are going to stick out badly unless you replace them, and all the rest. Paint will still be faded under them. An unsolicited opinion: I'd clean as much rust off that frame as safe, clean it pretty well and then leave it all dull. Or close to it. I think it looks very cool and it might be a shame to make it all shiny and new looking. 2 cents.
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Originally Posted by rootboy
Is that cool or what. My first thought was go after the whole frame with polishing compound. Then I though ...maybe not. Those down tube decals are going to stick out badly unless you replace them, and all the rest. Paint will still be faded under them. An unsolicited opinion: I'd clean as much rust off that frame as safe, clean it pretty well and then leave it all dull. Or close to it. I think it looks very cool and it might be a shame to make it all shiny and new looking. 2 cents.
I did that on my Super of three seasons ago.

Looked like something the cat dragged in, but I loved that bicycle so much.

Killed me to sell her, but I was amazed how much I sold it for.
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Very, very nice 1970s Super! My wife has an early 1980s "Saronni Red" Super. Colnagos are really sweet rides.
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Old 12-13-11, 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by rootboy
Is that cool or what. My first thought was go after the whole frame with polishing compound. Then I though ...maybe not. Those down tube decals are going to stick out badly unless you replace them, and all the rest. Paint will still be faded under them. An unsolicited opinion: I'd clean as much rust off that frame as safe, clean it pretty well and then leave it all dull. Or close to it. I think it looks very cool and it might be a shame to make it all shiny and new looking. 2 cents.
+1. She's a beauty.
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The paint cleans up fairly well. Its never gonna be perfect, but I would rather it have the original paint that be perfect.
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It's most likely a '74-'75, and I could have sworn we already went over that with this bike in a different thread awhile ago? Must not have taken
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I vote 1974. Bands and crest on seat tube, not Colnago spelled out facing forward.
As Colnagos are a bit transitional and not absolute on details or transfers, maybe a late '73.
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Originally Posted by Otis
It's most likely a '74-'75, and I could have sworn we already went over that with this bike in a different thread awhile ago? Must not have taken
We did, There was just a differing opinion so I figured I would ask again.
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I think in '75 they started putting the "colnago" script on the fork crown under the club, so before that.

Club cutout on the BB shell?
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Originally Posted by that_guy_zach
The paint cleans up fairly well. Its never gonna be perfect, but I would rather it have the original paint that be perfect.
Sounds like a plan - once you build her back up the clamp areas will be covered again anyway. I'm pretty sure Colnago was not clear coating their decals back in the mid-70's so being careful around them will pay off.

She doesn't look like she needs much to bring up a bit of luster. You don't want her too shiny, anyway - that would detract from the patina. BTW, the clover between the gear lever bosses - painted or Sharpie? Personally, I'd try to remove that. Somebody added that for some reason; it appears rather awkwardly done. Can you remove it without damaging the paint?

Please post pics once you've got her cleaned up and reassembled!

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I've straddled this bike. Was amazing.

Can't wait to see it up and rolling but do take your time. Maybe I'll have the Italvega together by then. Lol.
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Send it off to be professionally restored with new paint and decals. Then ride it for another 35 years.

Or, put it back together and hang it on the wall so as not to harm the patina.
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Or, put it back together, patina mostly intact, and ride it for another 35 years.
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Send it off to be professionally restored with new paint and decals. Then ride it for another 35 years.

Or, put it back together and hang it on the wall so as not to harm the patina.
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Or, put it back together, patina mostly intact, and ride it for another 35 years.
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Originally Posted by Drillium Dude
Sounds like a plan - once you build her back up the clamp areas will be covered again anyway. I'm pretty sure Colnago was not clear coating their decals back in the mid-70's so being careful around them will pay off.

She doesn't look like she needs much to bring up a bit of luster. You don't want her too shiny, anyway - that would detract from the patina. BTW, the clover between the gear lever bosses - painted or Sharpie? Personally, I'd try to remove that. Somebody added that for some reason; it appears rather awkwardly done. Can you remove it without damaging the paint?

Please post pics once you've got her cleaned up and reassembled!

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Thanks!


I have a couple of questions concerning getting this bike back together-

The seatpost was a SR but Im gonna use a Campagnolo Record there as Im guessing thats what it came with.

The bars are old logo Cinellis Giro's, would those be original to this bike?

I still do not know what to do for wheels on this bike. I have some high flange Record, But I am guessing tubulars?

Chain,seat and tires? What would correct or close to use on this.
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If it helps here's what mine is rocking. I think it's pretty original, but I bought it in restored condition.:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/7663691...7627936967295/

Tubies on MOnthlery legere Mavic rims, but I just received a set of more modern rims laced to NOS record hubs for event riding with cushier tires. Saddle is Cinelli, tires are Wolber neo-pros, chain is craptastic and about to be replaced with a gorgeous slotted Everest.

Hope that helps, that's gonna be a nice 'Nago when you're done!
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Looks like a really fun project. +1 on DD's suggestion to remove that nonsense between the shifter braze-ons. Careful with that, of course.

As far as components, I'd probably go: Record post, Unicanitor, old logo Cinelli bars/stem, high-flange Record to Fiamme yellow label tubulars and some nice modern gumwalls.

I'd love to see some pictures after you clean up the paint!

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Looks like a really fun project. +1 on DD's suggestion to remove that nonsense between the shifter braze-ons. Careful with that, of course.

As far as components, I'd probably go: Record post, Unicanitor, old logo Cinelli bars/stem, high-flange Record to Fiamme yellow label tubulars and some nice modern gumwalls.

I'd love to see some pictures after you clean up the paint!
I have this very wheelset. Funny.
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If you want your bike to be reallllly badass, check out the following recipe:



Saddle is a 3ttt Criterium - similar saddles have been going for around $65 on Ebay recently. Seatpost is a Record with added drillings, bars are old-logo Campione del Mondo (Cinelli crest on driveside - your old logo Giro d'Italias would be period-correct as well) with Cinelli 1A stem (oval Milano logo). Chain: Everest with slotted outer plates - keep an eye out as there are one or two Ebay sellers who sometimes list a couple at a time as a package deals. Everest chains are every bit as good quality as Regina, just not as well-known or expensive.

As for the wheels and tires, anybody but me should be heeded; on most of my rigs I use modern-ish Mavic clincher rims laced to vintage hubs and spokes. Not that you could tell unless the bike was at rest

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If you want your bike to be reallllly badass, check out the following recipe:

Wow, that is gorgeous DD!

Looks pristine, like it just came out of the factory. Your Colnago is this weeks wallpaper!
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My day got better this weekend thanks to Realestvin7 who happend to have the right set of wheels for the bike. I already had the tires. This is gonna be my first experience with sewups.





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