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Old 09-10-20, 07:51 AM
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N-1 (+2W) ... The Equation for the Modern Cyclist

N+1 is so yesterday. The new equation that I'm working with is N-1(+2W) 😃
https://rolfprima.com/blogs/news/n-1...-bicycle-needs

Are you rolling multiple wheel sets on a single bike? If so, post-up some pictures of your bike in it's various "flavors"!

Here's my bike in "hybrid mode"... i.e., trail in the bike, road in the front Kind of like a mullet hair cut... party in the back and business in the front.


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Two wheelsets and three tire types. With this bike, I went from N=4 to N=2

Slicks/roadie setup

Knobbies/gravel

Chunkers/MTB tubeless setup

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Originally Posted by walnutz
Two wheelsets and three tire types...
Chunkers/MTB tubeless setup
Bonus points for the graffiti shot.

What width are the MTB tires? I didn't think a road/gravel bike could work as a cross country mountain bike, but apparently I'm wrong (if the frame has enough clearance)!
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Originally Posted by PoorInRichfield
Bonus points for the graffiti shot.

What width are the MTB tires? I didn't think a road/gravel bike could work as a cross country mountain bike, but apparently I'm wrong (if the frame has enough clearance)!
Rear has just enough room for 2.4. Front can clear 2.3, maaaybe 2.35
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more graffiti:

Commuter setup
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In other news, boutique bicycle parts makers want you to buy more of their overpriced products.
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This ‘88 RockHopper has two similar wheel sets, this one with the smoother tires for dry (mostly warmer) conditions and the other with small knob tires for softer, wetter, (mostly colder) conditions. Don’t think I have a photo of the small knob wheels set up as SS yet.



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Old 09-10-20, 02:43 PM
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In other news, boutique bicycle parts makers want you to buy more of their overpriced products.
I definitely agree we get sold stuff we don’t need, but for me, disc brakes and bigger clearances are a game changer. I literally have fewer bikes now as a result.

Also, as far as I can tell there is nothing boutique in this thread so far.
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ofajen, I like your RockHopper. Are those tiny fenders at the brake bridge and fork crown?
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Originally Posted by delbiker1
ofajen, I like your RockHopper. Are those tiny fenders at the brake bridge and fork crown?
Not quite. They are quick mount clips for SKS fenders that just snap on when I want them.

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Originally Posted by PoorInRichfield
N+1 is so yesterday. The new equation that I'm working with is N-1(+2W) 😃
https://rolfprima.com/blogs/news/n-1...-bicycle-needs

Are you rolling multiple wheel sets on a single bike? If so, post-up some pictures of your bike in it's various "flavors"!

(I'm waiting for some parts for my second wheelset... pictures to follow once parts arrive.)
Im fine with the +W but dont like the negative math implications of N-1
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Mathematically, N-1(+2W) is equal to N-2W. Which is not what you’re trying to say.

But I get your meaning. I’ve been thinking about buying a very light, carbon fiber rim wheelset for my gravel bike - slap on some 35mm tires and ride it on pavement.
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Old 09-11-20, 06:31 AM
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Dang... ice spikes, BobbyG ! I can only assume that means you ride outside all winter long?
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Yup, sold the road bike, using the gravel bike with a second wheelset for road use. I'll prob end up with a road bike again, but for now the Revolt is a solid quiver killer for me.



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I did this exact same thing. I sold 3 bikes to fund one bike. I built two sets of wheels with the same hubs, rotors, and cassette. This makes the swap super easy.






Of course after this I accepted the fact that it is a disease and on a trip home from OH I picked up 4 old steel's and added 2 more since. I'm sick!
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Originally Posted by Rides4Beer
Yup, sold the road bike, using the gravel bike with a second wheelset for road use. I'll prob end up with a road bike again, but for now the Revolt is a solid quiver killer for me.
Love the orange! That bike just screams "FUN!"
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I did this exact same thing. I sold 3 bikes to fund one bike. I built two sets of wheels with the same hubs, rotors, and cassette. This makes the swap super easy.
Another sweet frame color... I'm so jealous, my bike is black (but I still love it!)
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Of course after this I accepted the fact that it is a disease and on a trip home from OH I picked up 4 old steel's and added 2 more since. I'm sick!
LOL! Are you starting a museum or something?
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I guess I am not a modern cyclist?
No desire to eliminate my road bikes, my gravel bike, or my touring bike.

I could eliminate all of them and just use my gravel bike, but I am lazy and would not switch the tires each time. I would just ride it with gravel tires on pavement because I will still be fast enough and not want to swap tires multiple times a week.
More power to those that arent so lazy though.
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Originally Posted by mstateglfr
I guess I am not a modern cyclist?
There's no rule saying one can't just continue with the N+1 "rule", but relatively recent advances in bike technology (like disc brakes on road bikes) have now made it possible to be relatively happy with just N
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The road bike has basically 2 sets- daily= 50mm w/23/25mm, and harsh conditions= 40mm w/ 27mm.

The CX bike has: daily/mixed= file tread; road/ faster= 30mm Schwalbe; mtn bike terrain= Tufo knobby w/ big cassette; CX/mud= Grifo.

All tubular. Also have several clincher sets but don't use them.


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Great thread ! You guys hve inspired me to get another set of tires for my road bike. I want to be able to compare the ride differences between different tires and I will be able to swap wheels with different tires. The first comparison I want to do is compare the 25mm Conti Gatorskins I have ont he bike now with some 25mm Conti 5000's. I expect to feel like cloud 9 on the 5000's
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Originally Posted by mstateglfr
I guess I am not a modern cyclist?
No desire to eliminate my road bikes, my gravel bike, or my touring bike.

I could eliminate all of them and just use my gravel bike, but I am lazy and would not switch the tires each time. I would just ride it with gravel tires on pavement because I will still be fast enough and not want to swap tires multiple times a week.
More power to those that arent so lazy though.
I think you missed the premise of the thread.. you don't change the tires, you change the wheels (which already have tires on them).
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Originally Posted by Sy Reene
I think you missed the premise of the thread.. you don't change the tires, you change the wheels (which already have tires on them).
Ha, I just misspoke. I'm too lazy to switch wheels multiple times a week. So I'm definitely too lazy to switch tires multiple times a week!
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