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Old 01-08-23, 11:13 AM
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^&& Speed Uniglide Compatibility?

Question for those who might know: Can you use a 7 speed Uniglide free hub body with 6 speeds? The reason I ask is that I am selling one in the classifieds and a potential buyer would like to use the freehub body to replace a worn out Uniglide freehub body, currently running 6 speeds? Is there and compatibility issue than one might encounter if they are swapped?

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6 & 7 Speed. Messed up the thread title!
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Originally Posted by fender1
Question for those who might know: Can you use a 7 speed Uniglide free hub body with 6 speeds? The reason I ask is that I am selling one in the classifieds and a potential buyer would like to use the freehub body to replace a worn out Uniglide freehub body, currently running 6 speeds? Is there and compatibility issue than one might encounter if they are swapped?

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dura ace is different, knowing partszilla, 600 probably is too.
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Originally Posted by Schweinhund
dura ace is different, knowing partszilla, 600 probably is too.
I think its just a matter of spacers between the cogs but can't find a confirmation.
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6 and 7 speed uniglide is the same. The cassettes are the same width and use the same threads to tighten the high sprocket. If it is going from 600 to 600 it shouldn't be a problem.
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Originally Posted by Kontact
6 and 7 speed uniglide is the same. The cassettes are the same width and use the same threads to tighten the high sprocket. If it is going from 600 to 600 it shouldn't be a problem.
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Do you guys really know what your talking about. As far as I know Uniglide was a 6 speed set up. Uniglide is an old obsolete system that has a free hub that uses the smallest cog to lock the free hub down onto the axle..It's a complete pain in the ass to do anything with. If you're patient you can get a longer axle & put a normal free hub on the wheel. After that you can slide a 7 or 8 speed cog set on the wheel. I've done it. But, it was a very complicated & time consuming deal. It's all about whatever you can get out of the old remaining Shimano parts stock. Good luck with your project.
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UG came in 5,6,7 and 8 speed flavors. Not really particularly fussy IMHO.
But shifting not as good as HG, for sure.
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Quick question for the group. The below freehub looks to be Uniglide and Hyperglide compatible. This should work for 6/7 speed Uniglide or Hyperglide, correct?



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Looking at Deore LX hubs, the hub is a similar hybrid thingy and holds 7 speeds.

Is the 8 speed spacing significantly different with respect to the cogs? I am presuming you can sort of get 8 on if the spacing is less.

Have to check that out.
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Originally Posted by fender1
Quick question for the group. The below freehub looks to be Uniglide and Hyperglide compatible. This should work for 6/7 speed Uniglide or Hyperglide, correct?
Yes, that is correct.
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Originally Posted by jdawginsc
Looking at Deore LX hubs, the hub is a similar hybrid thingy and holds 7 speeds.

Is the 8 speed spacing significantly different with respect to the cogs? I am presuming you can sort of get 8 on if the spacing is less.

Have to check that out.
8 cogs with 9 speed spacers fit on a 7 speed freehub.
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Everything you need to know, all your questions answered:

https://www.sheldonbrown.com/k7.html

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Here are some more helpful sheldon brown links:

Cassette and frame spacing crib sheet.

https://sheldonbrown.com/cribsheet-spacing.html


Cross compatibility of different speed drivetrain components:

https://sheldonbrown.com/speeds.html
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Originally Posted by rccardr
Yes, that is correct.
Thanks!
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Originally Posted by ramzilla
Do you guys really know what your talking about. As far as I know Uniglide was a 6 speed set up.
Actually, in general the folks answering the questions on this thread do indeed know what they're talking about. Contrary to your "as far as I know" assertion concerning Uniglide being "6 speed", as noted by @rccardr above Uniglide in fact was offered by Shimano starting at 5 speed (late 1979 or early 1980) and continuing through Dura Ace 7402 (8 speed Uniglide only, mid-to-late 1980s; Hyperglide didn't appear until 1988). UItegra and 105 may also have had 8-speed Uniglide-only versions; not sure, and it's not worth the time to check.

In fact, there is very strong evidence that Shimano also produced a 4-speed version of Uniglide (though I've never seen one). The FH-RM50-4 hub is noted in Shimano documentation as being a 4-speed hub. Its exploded view clearly shows it to be a freehub-type hub, and the exploded view shows a right freehub dust cover consistent with the hub being Unidglide only.

https://si.shimano.com/en/manual/search?model=FH-RM50-4

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Originally Posted by Hondo6
In fact, there is very strong evidence that Shimano also produced a 4-speed version of Uniglide (though I've never seen one). The FH-RM50-4 hub is noted in Shimano documentation as being a 4-speed hub. Its exploded view clearly shows it to be a freehub-type hub, and the exploded view shows a right freehub dust cover consistent with the hub being Unidglide only.

https://si.shimano.com/en/manual/search?model=FH-RM50-4
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Originally Posted by ThermionicScott
Also exploded: my brain.
Won't say my brain exploded, or that I fell out of my chair. But I was very surprised bordering on shocked when I saw that hub's EV.

I would absolutely love to see one - as well as the corresponding cassette. Because it doesn't seem possible that Shimano would make one without the other.
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Am I the only one who noticed the OLD on that 4 speed freehub is 126mm?
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Originally Posted by rccardr
Am I the only one who noticed the OLD on that 4 speed freehub is 126mm?
And a solid axle? Am I seeing that right?
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Originally Posted by rccardr
Am I the only one who noticed the OLD on that 4 speed freehub is 126mm?
Nope. I even mentioned that a couple of days ago in my first comment concerning this oddity (different thread).

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And a solid axle? Am I seeing that right?
I noticed that too. But I didn't mention it because from what I've seen, solid axles were still used on a fair number of Shimano rear freehub-type hubs from that era, and even a bit later.

But it's still an oddity with respect to the axle in another respect - the axle's not 10mm diameter. EV says the axle is B.C. 3/8".

I would love to see one of these. They've got to be rare indeed.
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Originally Posted by Hondo6
Nope. I even mentioned that a couple of days ago in my first comment concerning this oddity (different thread).



I noticed that too. But I didn't mention it because from what I've seen, solid axles were still used on a fair number of Shimano rear freehub-type hubs from that era, and even a bit later.

But it's still an oddity with respect to the axle in another respect - the axle's not 10mm diameter. EV says the axle is B.C. 3/8".

I would love to see one of these. They've got to be rare indeed.
Just wait until they are "re-issued" by Rene Herse!
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Originally Posted by rccardr
Am I the only one who noticed the OLD on that 4 speed freehub is 126mm?
I caught that, too. Surprised that it wasn't 120mm OLD (or narrower.) Would love to know what the point of this hub was, if they had this much OLD to play with. Only possibility that comes to my mind is a really specific 4-speed OEM use.
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