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Old 02-20-23, 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Kontact
Given the Rivedell mission, what parts were super fiddly?
I'm curious about this, too. I'm a long-time Riv guy and find them very easy to build, conversely more modernish bikes are a struggle for me, "What the heck is a threadless headset? Why is there threading on the dropouts and where are the quick-release skewers??" Maybe he's coming from modern to Riv.
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I sympathize with those who also feel their enthusiasm for tinkering has dampened over the years. I used to look forward to building bikes but now I dislike changing flats.

As someone with multiple bikes, I'm lucky that I usually have something that I can ride if one is in need of repairs. The slippery slope is letting multiple bikes fall to a state of needing repair and forgetting about what needs to be done after some time has passed.

Sometimes I find it therapeutic to swap tires or patch a batch of tubes. One of the worst is when I want to take the groupset from one bike to put onto a new frame. Such a simple job but it always takes longer than it should. Maybe wireless electronic shifting is the ticket but my wallet cannot support outfitting all my bikes with electronic groupsets.

Oh, and despite wearing gloves and apron I always manage to get a smidge of grease or grime on my clothes or myself.
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Old 02-20-23, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by messmer777
I just finished building a really beautiful Rivendell Sam Hillborne set up as a city bike with albatross bars etc. I am really glad to have it finished but I realized something very clearly: I really really dislike working on bicycles and if I never have to do it again it'll be too soon. I have gone back and forth to two different bike stores 6 or 7 times, got sent the wrong parts in the mail, raged and ranted while trying to set up super fiddly crap. Ugh. I figured that others probably can feel my pain and thought I'd just put in a word for paying your friendly local bike shop and enjoying your weekend instead of busting your knuckles and fiddling with annoying junk! ok rant over.
When I built up my current bike, everything went into place without issue and everything was the right size. None of the issues you had, so I really cant relate. Sorry for that.
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Old 02-20-23, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by KerryIrons
When I built up my current bike, everything went into place without issue and everything was the right size. None of the issues you had, so I really cant relate. Sorry for that.
I gotta be honest, everything went pretty smoothly on this build all things considered. I wound up having to do a lot of running around and got some wrong parts etc. I'm really stoked on this bike I just realized that i don't enjoy this process like i used to.
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Old 02-20-23, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by messmer777
Yeah I dont blame you, but I'm just blowing off steam: I used to enjoy wrenching on bikes and I guess I'm not as into it any more, I'd rather be out riding.
Pay no attention to him. His ignore list is about a quarter million people long by now.

As for working on bikes, the more you do it, the less bother it becomes. But, honestly, people fiddle with bikes far too much. They donít need near the work and adjustment that most people put into them. They should be able to go for thousands of miles with minimal maintenance.
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Old 02-20-23, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by cyccommute
Pay no attention to him. His ignore list is about a quarter million people long by now.

As for working on bikes, the more you do it, the less bother it becomes. But, honestly, people fiddle with bikes far too much. They donít need near the work and adjustment that most people put into them. They should be able to go for thousands of miles with minimal maintenance.
True. Most of my bike fiddling comes from buying old stuff that needs new parts, now that I'm down to two properly outfitted bicycles there's very little fiddling. They go, they stop, I'm happy!



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Old 02-20-23, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by messmer777
I just finished building a really beautiful Rivendell Sam Hillborne set up as a city bike with albatross bars etc. I am really glad to have it finished but I realized something very clearly: I really really dislike working on bicycles and if I never have to do it again it'll be too soon. I have gone back and forth to two different bike stores 6 or 7 times, got sent the wrong parts in the mail, raged and ranted while trying to set up super fiddly crap. Ugh. I figured that others probably can feel my pain and thought I'd just put in a word for paying your friendly local bike shop and enjoying your weekend instead of busting your knuckles and fiddling with annoying junk! ok rant over.
It sounds like you're fairly new to bike mechanics. It gets much better/easier with time and practice. Yes, there's a steep learning curve and many things have 'secret' tips that, once you know, make the job much easier. For me, it's simply too much of a pain in the butt (never mind the $$$) to constantly drag my bikes into the LBS mechanic when inevitably a mechanical issue arises so putting the time & effort in the learn was worth it. It's not for everyone..
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Old 02-20-23, 05:36 PM
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I enjoy working/building up bikes, but I'd rather ride.
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Old 02-20-23, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by messmer777
I just finished building a really beautiful Rivendell Sam Hillborne set up as a city bike with albatross bars etc. I am really glad to have it finished but I realized something very clearly: I really really dislike working on bicycles and if I never have to do it again it'll be too soon. I have gone back and forth to two different bike stores 6 or 7 times, got sent the wrong parts in the mail, raged and ranted while trying to set up super fiddly crap. Ugh. I figured that others probably can feel my pain and thought I'd just put in a word for paying your friendly local bike shop and enjoying your weekend instead of busting your knuckles and fiddling with annoying junk! ok rant over.
sounds like a bad experience. nice rant
I don't mind working on bikes but I hear ya! some stuff is best left to the pros. watching a pro at work is great
how does it ride?
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Old 02-20-23, 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by rumrunn6
sounds like a bad experience. nice rant
I don't mind working on bikes but I hear ya! some stuff is best left to the pros. watching a pro at work is great
how does it ride?
Now that a couple days have passed and the grim memories have faded, and i've been out on this bike a few times I retract my original rant at least in part, this thing is fantastic and nobody's gonna wanna listen to my whining when I got this bike...
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Old 02-20-23, 09:46 PM
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Well that did turn out just beautiful. But something is upside down. LOL.
Put a little Sigma speedo on there and let'r fly.
Cheers.
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Old 02-20-23, 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by GamblerGORD53
Well that did turn out just beautiful. But something is upside down. LOL.
Put a little Sigma speedo on there and let'r fly.
Cheers.
Yeah I like em like that, Iím weird
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Old 02-20-23, 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by messmer777
Now that a couple days have passed and the grim memories have faded, and i've been out on this bike a few times I retract my original rant at least in part, this thing is fantastic and nobody's gonna wanna listen to my whining when I got this bike...
Nice! The flipped Albas give it a cool Path Racer look.
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Old 02-21-23, 04:40 AM
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Originally Posted by messmer777
Now that a couple days have passed and the grim memories have faded, and i've been out on this bike a few times I retract my original rant at least in part, this thing is fantastic and nobody's gonna wanna listen to my whining when I got this bike...
looks great. I see fenders & know from personal experience, that even just installing fenders, can warrant some ranting
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Originally Posted by SoSmellyAir
The key to enjoy tinkering is to have multiple bikes, so that there is always at least one to ride and one to tinker with.

The corollary to the above requires a hoard of spare parts, so that one can minimize rendering multiple bikes temporarily inoperable by swapping parts between operable bikes.
Second corollary is that you need to spend some riding time (or at least spare time!) tinkering with the second bike. A bike that's not ready to ride with a spare bike that's also not ready to ride just takes up room in the garage.

Originally Posted by rumrunn6
looks great. I see fenders & know from personal experience, that even just installing fenders, can warrant some ranting
​​​​​​​Especially fenders. Grr.
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Old 02-21-23, 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by tFUnK
...The slippery slope is letting multiple bikes fall to a state of needing repair and forgetting about what needs to be done after some time has passed.....
With way too many bikes I have resolved this with a pad of Post It Notes the Super Sticky ones and pen at the bike racks. I have used them for years and they last, one bikes is waiting for Campy pawls for at least 5 years now which have turned out to be unobtainium.
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Old 02-22-23, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Joearch
I get where OP is coming from. Love the design and engineering on bikes today. It does take a commitment to get the tools and expertise to do a comprehensive job. I find that simple maintenance is satisfying but every 2500 miles or so off to the mechanic pro who dials it back to near perfection. So sweet to have the feel of a tuned machine deep into a ride.
This is what works for me as well.
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Old 02-22-23, 10:59 AM
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Remember a Bike is a machine that has very few parts and are very simple to work on.

Try working on an IBM Selectric Composer. It had 5000 part in a box no bigger than a large typewriter.

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yeah not for u
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that looks neat
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Originally Posted by urbanknight
Some cyclists also like to tinker, some don’t.
Some like to tinker, and some just want to make it work like it's supposed to.

There's nothing wrong with taking it in to a shop. Just remember, if you do, the guy or gal who works on it will be of the second type.

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I like the look of the bars flipped like that too on that bike. Even though the OP didn't seem to like working on it, it looks good and now that he isn't wrenching he can ride it.
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Originally Posted by oldbobcat
Some like to tinker, and some just want to make it work like it's supposed to.
Good point.

Originally Posted by oldbobcat
There's nothing wrong with taking it in to a shop. Just remember, if you do, the guy or gal who works on it will be of the second type.
Well, they could be of the first type, but they know itís their job to be the second type when working on someone elseís bike.
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Originally Posted by urbanknight
Good point.

Well, they could be of the first type, but they know itís their job to be the second type when working on someone elseís bike.
I am willing to pay a fair price for good enough and to pay more for optimal, because some degree of tinkering is often required to get from good enough to optimal.
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That bike looks nice. I have a take on the vibe you're talking about which is: when you decide you're going to do something yourself and then it goes annoyingly sideways at some point, I tell myself that if it had just worked the first time then I wouldn't have learned the additional stuff that I did about whatever system it is. And then if the bike does finally turn out well, you get to have the post-knowledge that you really got in to the weeds with the thing and got familiar with it and got it dialed in, after that you can take some time to enjoy your work until the next thing comes up
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