Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Road Cycling
Reload this Page >

Addiction 2022.1

Notices
Road Cycling ďIt is by riding a bicycle that you learn the contours of a country best, since you have to sweat up the hills and coast down them. Thus you remember them as they actually are, while in a motor car only a high hill impresses you, and you have no such accurate remembrance of country you have driven through as you gain by riding a bicycle.Ē -- Ernest Hemingway

Addiction 2022.1

Old 01-20-22, 04:08 PM
  #2876  
big john
Senior Member
 
big john's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: In the foothills of Los Angeles County
Posts: 18,993
Mentioned: 7 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4242 Post(s)
Liked 3,645 Times in 1,976 Posts
Originally Posted by BillyD View Post
More likely folks are just bored with riding on paved surfaces, next thing you know everyone except Vol and I will be flocking to riding in the mud. Some do that already, I hear.
I've ridden motorcycles and bicycles off road since around 1980. Most of my motorcycling was in the desert so not much mud there. It rarely rains here but when it does I know where to go to avoid mud. There is an area near here that is almost all sandstone. I've been up there in the pouring rain and not a bit of mud. Also, areas with sandy, rocky terrain are fine when wet.

Clay is to be avoided. When wet it sticks to your tires and they grow to the point that they can't roll. Then you have to carry the bike, which has gained a lot of weight, and your shoes grow to ridiculous proportions. I took my ex wife to a clay trail in the rain, by accident, and she started crying. Made me feel pretty awful.

It's fun. Road riding in the rain sucks. Also, I'm not bored with road riding, I'm sick of cars and riding around them. Actually, most drivers around here are considerate but a few aren't.
big john is offline  
Likes For big john:
Old 01-20-22, 04:12 PM
  #2877  
Eric F
Habitual User
 
Eric F's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: Altadena, CA
Posts: 2,412

Bikes: 2018 Storck Fascenario.3 Platinum, 2003 Time VX Special Pro, 2001 Colnago VIP, 1999 Trek 9900 singlespeed, 1977 Nishiki ONP

Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1409 Post(s)
Liked 2,207 Times in 1,083 Posts
Originally Posted by BillyD View Post
I've always found credence in the old expression "It takes a chump to make a champ". Superstars don't make good coaches. Other than Lenny Wilkins, I can't think of another instance, in any sport, where a superstar became a championship calibre coach.
I'm not talking about only the superstars. There is a long-standing prevailing opinion in baseball that you can't be an effective coach at the pro level if you haven't played at the pro level. It appears that this standard is starting to erode a bit.
Eric F is offline  
Likes For Eric F:
Old 01-20-22, 04:17 PM
  #2878  
phrantic09
Fat n slow
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Saratoga, NY
Posts: 2,914

Bikes: Cervelo R3, Giant Revolt

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2186 Post(s)
Liked 1,287 Times in 610 Posts

phrantic09 is offline  
Likes For phrantic09:
Old 01-20-22, 04:22 PM
  #2879  
Eric F
Habitual User
 
Eric F's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: Altadena, CA
Posts: 2,412

Bikes: 2018 Storck Fascenario.3 Platinum, 2003 Time VX Special Pro, 2001 Colnago VIP, 1999 Trek 9900 singlespeed, 1977 Nishiki ONP

Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1409 Post(s)
Liked 2,207 Times in 1,083 Posts
Originally Posted by big john View Post
I've ridden motorcycles and bicycles off road since around 1980. Most of my motorcycling was in the desert so not much mud there. It rarely rains here but when it does I know where to go to avoid mud. There is an area near here that is almost all sandstone. I've been up there in the pouring rain and not a bit of mud. Also, areas with sandy, rocky terrain are fine when wet.

Clay is to be avoided. When wet it sticks to your tires and they grow to the point that they can't roll. Then you have to carry the bike, which has gained a lot of weight, and your shoes grow to ridiculous proportions. I took my ex wife to a clay trail in the rain, by accident, and she started crying. Made me feel pretty awful.

It's fun. Road riding in the rain sucks. Also, I'm not bored with road riding, I'm sick of cars and riding around them. Actually, most drivers around here are considerate but a few aren't.
Our local hills - the San Gabriel mountain range - are basically a giant pile of decomposing granite with very little clay content. This means water runs through it or off it pretty efficiently, and even when really wet, it doesn't get very sticky. Other areas of So Cal have higher clay content, which gets that all-mucked-up condition.
Eric F is offline  
Old 01-20-22, 04:24 PM
  #2880  
phrantic09
Fat n slow
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Saratoga, NY
Posts: 2,914

Bikes: Cervelo R3, Giant Revolt

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2186 Post(s)
Liked 1,287 Times in 610 Posts
Originally Posted by big john View Post
I've ridden motorcycles and bicycles off road since around 1980. Most of my motorcycling was in the desert so not much mud there. It rarely rains here but when it does I know where to go to avoid mud. There is an area near here that is almost all sandstone. I've been up there in the pouring rain and not a bit of mud. Also, areas with sandy, rocky terrain are fine when wet.

Clay is to be avoided. When wet it sticks to your tires and they grow to the point that they can't roll. Then you have to carry the bike, which has gained a lot of weight, and your shoes grow to ridiculous proportions. I took my ex wife to a clay trail in the rain, by accident, and she started crying. Made me feel pretty awful.

It's fun. Road riding in the rain sucks. Also, I'm not bored with road riding, I'm sick of cars and riding around them. Actually, most drivers around here are considerate but a few aren't.
dirt and gravel are a ton of fun. I have to ride 13 miles to hit the dirt but really love it.
phrantic09 is offline  
Likes For phrantic09:
Old 01-20-22, 04:26 PM
  #2881  
WhyFi
Senior Member
 
WhyFi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: TC, MN
Posts: 37,883

Bikes: R3 Disc, Haanjo

Mentioned: 352 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 19401 Post(s)
Liked 7,972 Times in 4,020 Posts
Originally Posted by phrantic09 View Post


I think that I've mentioned it before, but it bears repeating if you haven't dealt with it before: the freehub can/will slide right off so, when you're handling the rear wheel, don't hold it with the cassette pointing down. Once the freehub body comes off, it can be a pain to get it back on and I've had pawls pop out on me (none lost, thankfully).
WhyFi is offline  
Old 01-20-22, 04:30 PM
  #2882  
phrantic09
Fat n slow
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Saratoga, NY
Posts: 2,914

Bikes: Cervelo R3, Giant Revolt

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2186 Post(s)
Liked 1,287 Times in 610 Posts
Originally Posted by WhyFi View Post


I think that I've mentioned it before, but it bears repeating if you haven't dealt with it before: the freehub can/will slide right off so, when you're handling the rear wheel, don't hold it with the cassette pointing down. Once the freehub body comes off, it can be a pain to get it back on and I've had pawls pop out on me (none lost, thankfully).
I didnít know that. So itíll come right off even with the cassette on?
phrantic09 is offline  
Old 01-20-22, 04:35 PM
  #2883  
genejockey 
Klaatu..Verata..Necktie?
 
genejockey's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 10,037

Bikes: Canyon Endurace, 105; Battaglin MAX, Chorus; Bianchi 928 Veloce; Ritchey Road Logic, Dura Ace; Cannondale R500 RX100; Schwinn Circuit, Sante; Lotus Supreme, Dura Ace

Mentioned: 34 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5414 Post(s)
Liked 5,672 Times in 2,894 Posts
Originally Posted by BillyD View Post
I've always found credence in the old expression "It takes a chump to make a champ". Superstars don't make good coaches. Other than Lenny Wilkins, I can't think of another instance, in any sport, where a superstar became a championship calibre coach.
"Remember! The difference between 'chump' and 'champ' is U! But the difference between 'champ' and 'chimp' is I!!!"
__________________
"Don't take life so serious-it ain't nohow permanent."

"Everybody's gotta be somewhere." - Eccles
genejockey is offline  
Old 01-20-22, 04:58 PM
  #2884  
big john
Senior Member
 
big john's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: In the foothills of Los Angeles County
Posts: 18,993
Mentioned: 7 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4242 Post(s)
Liked 3,645 Times in 1,976 Posts
Originally Posted by Eric F View Post
Our local hills - the San Gabriel mountain range - are basically a giant pile of decomposing granite with very little clay content. This means water runs through it or off it pretty efficiently, and even when really wet, it doesn't get very sticky. Other areas of So Cal have higher clay content, which gets that all-mucked-up condition.
Yep.
big john is offline  
Likes For big john:
Old 01-20-22, 05:02 PM
  #2885  
Velo Vol 
VFL For Life
 
Velo Vol's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Knoxville, TN
Posts: 46,062

Bikes: Velo Volmobile

Mentioned: 760 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 23170 Post(s)
Liked 1,180 Times in 832 Posts
Originally Posted by datlas View Post
Someone told me that if a road has a double-yellow line that it's maintained by the state, while those without a double yellow line are maintained by the township. I know you are not in my state, but does that sound right or is it an old wives' tale??
Nope.
__________________
Originally Posted by Velo Vol View Post
People here don't get it.
Velo Vol is offline  
Old 01-20-22, 05:09 PM
  #2886  
LesterOfPuppets
cowboy, steel horse, etc
 
LesterOfPuppets's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Valley of the Sun.
Posts: 39,358

Bikes: everywhere

Mentioned: 70 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8954 Post(s)
Liked 3,868 Times in 2,077 Posts
Originally Posted by BillyD View Post
Low hurdles.

I thought those were handlebars for a minute.
LesterOfPuppets is offline  
Likes For LesterOfPuppets:
Old 01-20-22, 05:21 PM
  #2887  
Eric F
Habitual User
 
Eric F's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: Altadena, CA
Posts: 2,412

Bikes: 2018 Storck Fascenario.3 Platinum, 2003 Time VX Special Pro, 2001 Colnago VIP, 1999 Trek 9900 singlespeed, 1977 Nishiki ONP

Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1409 Post(s)
Liked 2,207 Times in 1,083 Posts
Originally Posted by genejockey View Post
"Remember! The difference between 'chump' and 'champ' is U! But the difference between 'champ' and 'chimp' is I!!!"
"There's no 'I" in team...but there's no team without 'me'"!
Eric F is offline  
Likes For Eric F:
Old 01-20-22, 05:38 PM
  #2888  
datlas 
Beyond Bogus
 
datlas's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Malvern, PA (20 miles West of Philly)
Posts: 37,658

Bikes: 1986 Alpine (steel road bike), 2009 Ti Habenero, 2013 Specialized Roubaix

Mentioned: 519 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 17474 Post(s)
Liked 4,803 Times in 2,328 Posts
Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets View Post
I thought those were handlebars for a minute.
Theyíre not?!?
__________________
Originally Posted by rjones28 View Post
Addiction is all about class.
datlas is offline  
Likes For datlas:
Old 01-20-22, 05:42 PM
  #2889  
Eric F
Habitual User
 
Eric F's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: Altadena, CA
Posts: 2,412

Bikes: 2018 Storck Fascenario.3 Platinum, 2003 Time VX Special Pro, 2001 Colnago VIP, 1999 Trek 9900 singlespeed, 1977 Nishiki ONP

Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1409 Post(s)
Liked 2,207 Times in 1,083 Posts
Originally Posted by datlas View Post
Theyíre not?!?
Nope. Low hurdles commonly used in athletic agility training.

https://www.amazon.ca/Trademark-Inno.../dp/B00M1S0XHY
Eric F is offline  
Old 01-20-22, 06:03 PM
  #2890  
genejockey 
Klaatu..Verata..Necktie?
 
genejockey's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 10,037

Bikes: Canyon Endurace, 105; Battaglin MAX, Chorus; Bianchi 928 Veloce; Ritchey Road Logic, Dura Ace; Cannondale R500 RX100; Schwinn Circuit, Sante; Lotus Supreme, Dura Ace

Mentioned: 34 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5414 Post(s)
Liked 5,672 Times in 2,894 Posts
Originally Posted by Eric F View Post
Nope. Low hurdles commonly used in athletic agility training.

https://www.amazon.ca/Trademark-Inno.../dp/B00M1S0XHY
Son of a gun. I'd never have known.
__________________
"Don't take life so serious-it ain't nohow permanent."

"Everybody's gotta be somewhere." - Eccles
genejockey is offline  
Old 01-20-22, 06:06 PM
  #2891  
Eric F
Habitual User
 
Eric F's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: Altadena, CA
Posts: 2,412

Bikes: 2018 Storck Fascenario.3 Platinum, 2003 Time VX Special Pro, 2001 Colnago VIP, 1999 Trek 9900 singlespeed, 1977 Nishiki ONP

Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1409 Post(s)
Liked 2,207 Times in 1,083 Posts
Originally Posted by genejockey View Post
Son of a gun. I'd never have known.
Now ya do.
Eric F is offline  
Old 01-20-22, 06:10 PM
  #2892  
genejockey 
Klaatu..Verata..Necktie?
 
genejockey's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 10,037

Bikes: Canyon Endurace, 105; Battaglin MAX, Chorus; Bianchi 928 Veloce; Ritchey Road Logic, Dura Ace; Cannondale R500 RX100; Schwinn Circuit, Sante; Lotus Supreme, Dura Ace

Mentioned: 34 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5414 Post(s)
Liked 5,672 Times in 2,894 Posts
Originally Posted by Eric F View Post
Now ya do.
Now I got a use for all the 38 and 40 cm bars I've been taking off C&V bikes! REALLY low hurdles!
__________________
"Don't take life so serious-it ain't nohow permanent."

"Everybody's gotta be somewhere." - Eccles
genejockey is offline  
Old 01-20-22, 06:20 PM
  #2893  
WhyFi
Senior Member
 
WhyFi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: TC, MN
Posts: 37,883

Bikes: R3 Disc, Haanjo

Mentioned: 352 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 19401 Post(s)
Liked 7,972 Times in 4,020 Posts
Originally Posted by phrantic09 View Post
I didnít know that. So itíll come right off even with the cassette on?
Yup. It's the first that I've run in to it, too, but it seems as if it's becoming more common. I couldn't say why, though...
WhyFi is offline  
Old 01-20-22, 06:22 PM
  #2894  
Eric F
Habitual User
 
Eric F's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: Altadena, CA
Posts: 2,412

Bikes: 2018 Storck Fascenario.3 Platinum, 2003 Time VX Special Pro, 2001 Colnago VIP, 1999 Trek 9900 singlespeed, 1977 Nishiki ONP

Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1409 Post(s)
Liked 2,207 Times in 1,083 Posts
Originally Posted by genejockey View Post
Now I got a use for all the 38 and 40 cm bars I've been taking off C&V bikes! REALLY low hurdles!
Call them "vintage agility hurdles", and this will definitely happen...
Eric F is offline  
Likes For Eric F:
Old 01-20-22, 06:28 PM
  #2895  
ls01
he said member
 
ls01's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: is everything
Posts: 12,104

Bikes: yes please

Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2017 Post(s)
Liked 1,321 Times in 807 Posts
Originally Posted by big john View Post
Fresh legs?
Has to be.
ls01 is offline  
Old 01-20-22, 06:30 PM
  #2896  
ls01
he said member
 
ls01's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: is everything
Posts: 12,104

Bikes: yes please

Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2017 Post(s)
Liked 1,321 Times in 807 Posts
Originally Posted by Mojo31 View Post
I guess he could have said that he would go to Phrantic's to play with his joy stick.
Oh,...oh my....
ls01 is offline  
Likes For ls01:
Old 01-20-22, 06:30 PM
  #2897  
genejockey 
Klaatu..Verata..Necktie?
 
genejockey's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 10,037

Bikes: Canyon Endurace, 105; Battaglin MAX, Chorus; Bianchi 928 Veloce; Ritchey Road Logic, Dura Ace; Cannondale R500 RX100; Schwinn Circuit, Sante; Lotus Supreme, Dura Ace

Mentioned: 34 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5414 Post(s)
Liked 5,672 Times in 2,894 Posts
Originally Posted by Eric F View Post
Call them "vintage agility hurdles", and this will definitely happen...
The 150mm drop is about all some vintage people can get over!
__________________
"Don't take life so serious-it ain't nohow permanent."

"Everybody's gotta be somewhere." - Eccles
genejockey is offline  
Likes For genejockey:
Old 01-20-22, 06:30 PM
  #2898  
big john
Senior Member
 
big john's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: In the foothills of Los Angeles County
Posts: 18,993
Mentioned: 7 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4242 Post(s)
Liked 3,645 Times in 1,976 Posts
Originally Posted by WhyFi View Post
Yup. It's the first that I've run in to it, too, but it seems as if it's becoming more common. I couldn't say why, though...
My mountain bike does that. I didn't know until one time I drove 45 miles to a ride start and I guess the day before I had the wheel off and when I put it back on it was a little wonky. I pulled the axle out and I thought it was broken. Finally figured it out and went riding. I used a piece of stiff wire to push the pawls down. Kept checking it every time we stopped because I wasn't sure.
big john is offline  
Old 01-20-22, 06:31 PM
  #2899  
ls01
he said member
 
ls01's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: is everything
Posts: 12,104

Bikes: yes please

Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2017 Post(s)
Liked 1,321 Times in 807 Posts
Originally Posted by Mojo31 View Post
What are those?
those are (broken and collapsed) displacement on demand lifters. The thing that gm is being sued for right now.

Last edited by ls01; 01-20-22 at 07:15 PM.
ls01 is offline  
Old 01-20-22, 06:31 PM
  #2900  
phrantic09
Fat n slow
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Saratoga, NY
Posts: 2,914

Bikes: Cervelo R3, Giant Revolt

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2186 Post(s)
Liked 1,287 Times in 610 Posts
Originally Posted by WhyFi View Post
Yup. It's the first that I've run in to it, too, but it seems as if it's becoming more common. I couldn't say why, though...

Strange, perhaps itís to make changing the freehub bodies easier with shimano, XD and XDR these days?

Cassette comes tomorrow, not sure what tires yet but Iím leaning toward whatever I can find
phrantic09 is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell My Personal Information -

Copyright © 2021 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.