The death of rim brakes, disc brakes now unanimous in the pro peloton...
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Someday, maybe in the next 10-20 years, you'll be sitting quietly on your front porch and you'll suddenly think "Where did all those damn clouds come from?" Simultaneously, you will conclude that it is no longer possible for bikes and cycling gear to improve beyond what you presently own, and you will live out the remainder of your cycling days frozen in time.
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If there was no UCI weight limit, I wonder how many teams would be riding on discs if they could build bikes 1 - 1.5lbs lighter with rim brakes?
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Pro bikes would be probably around 5ish kg
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tomato coupe I'm in favor of disks or whatever and whatever comes after
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I have mechanical disc brakes on my Colnago World Cup CX. Have had this bike for over 5 years. The brakes have been problem free. I have no experience that would lead me to say they are terrible.
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Someday, maybe in the next 10-20 years, you'll be sitting quietly on your front porch and you'll suddenly think "Where did all those damn clouds come from?" Simultaneously, you will conclude that it is no longer possible for bikes and cycling gear to improve beyond what you presently own, and you will live out the remainder of your cycling days frozen in time.
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Probably none, and aero road bikes wouldn't be a thing, either, even if it matters more than weight, and tires and wheels wouldn't be getting wider and deeper, most likely, either. You can easily feel weight, unlike, say, aerodynamics which is invisible.
Pro bikes would be probably around 5ish kg
Pro bikes would be probably around 5ish kg
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Who was it disrespectful to exactly? I know plenty of people who like to live in the past and will spout all kinds of BS about newer things. It's just human nature.
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Probably none, and aero road bikes wouldn't be a thing, either, even if it matters more than weight, and tires and wheels wouldn't be getting wider and deeper, most likely, either. You can easily feel weight, unlike, say, aerodynamics which is invisible.
Pro bikes would be probably around 5ish kg
Pro bikes would be probably around 5ish kg
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Yet another BF thread devolves into inevitable arguments and accusations. Which means everything is normal.
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Better analogy is electronic shifting vs cable. Pros all use disc and electronic. Higher end groupsets are/will all be electronic and disc brake.
However, mid-range and entry level will likely still support rim brakes (and cable shifting) for quite some time.
If you can understand why purity might be a reason some folks like track bikes, you can probably see that mechanical shifting and rim brakes are likely to survive at the high end, even if it's just Campy.
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I would be so down with something in direct mount. Doubt it's a thing, though... What is there, ye olde Magura ones, and SRAM?
No. They're superior in a couple of ways and inferior in a couple of others. Most people don't care about the drawbacks, but some do, which is allowed.
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OTOH, I'm sure the concept of 'purity' is a consideration for a certain fraction of the cost-no-object market...
If you can understand why purity might be a reason some folks like track bikes, you can probably see that mechanical shifting and rim brakes are likely to survive at the high end, even if it's just Campy.
If you can understand why purity might be a reason some folks like track bikes, you can probably see that mechanical shifting and rim brakes are likely to survive at the high end, even if it's just Campy.
Again, I expect there will be small time makers who will go for the niche markets; you can get brand new downtube shifters today, if you like, and I expect someone in 2050 will be able to buy a mechanical groupset with rim brakes just fine - but they won't have loads of choice.
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No, the way I read it, he was cheekily paying a compliment by poking fun at the common retrogrouch mind-trap of drawing a line in the sand, usually correlating to a specific stage in their life, and declaring it the peak of bike technology.
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I read it the way Bruce read it, especially after reading other posts from TC. I'd guess that whichever side of the debate you're on is the way you might decipher the statement. I could be wrong. That goes for most any debate here whether it be discs/rims, shifting systems, tubed/tubeless, toilet seat up/down, etc, etc, etc.
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I read it as ridicule as well. I think that either are valid interpretations. For that reasons, my opinion is that it is not very nice and/or could have been worded differently.
Much of the content since then has been unconstructive and argumentative as rsbob suggested.. I'll go a step further and suggest that we give it a rest.
Much of the content since then has been unconstructive and argumentative as rsbob suggested.. I'll go a step further and suggest that we give it a rest.
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I'm still on 11s, mechnical, clincher/tubular and rim brake on my two road bikes and TT bike. I feel my returns would be quite diminishing for my investment in any newer technology, at least for the relatively light and easy cycling conditions that we have in San Diego. I do enjoy tubeless and discs on my MTB, where I think we can all agree it makes a much bigger difference.
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I'd say it's time for last call. Time to turn out the lights and lock the doors.
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Queue "Closing Time" by Semisonic.
Without having read through the whole thread, I think the returns on hydro discs are greater if you have access to more mountains and/or wet weather more regularly than what we do in San Diego. If I was right under the San Gabrels or San Bernardino mountains in LA, maybe I'd consider switching over. But then again I don't particularly love climbing (or descending) so maybe not haha
Without having read through the whole thread, I think the returns on hydro discs are greater if you have access to more mountains and/or wet weather more regularly than what we do in San Diego. If I was right under the San Gabrels or San Bernardino mountains in LA, maybe I'd consider switching over. But then again I don't particularly love climbing (or descending) so maybe not haha
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Queue "Closing Time" by Semisonic.Without having read through the whole thread, I think the returns on hydro discs are greater if you have access to more mountains and/or wet weather more regularly than what we do in San Diego. If I was right under the San Gabrels or San Bernardino mountains in LA, maybe I'd consider switching over. But then again I don't particularly love climbing (or descending) so maybe not haha
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