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Old 11-21-23, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by pdlamb
Yes, that's what I'm asking. Which bike?
Hook, line, sinker. Yum.
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Old 11-21-23, 11:33 AM
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PeteHski I just find the Wattbike Atom odd. It would not appeal to me for the reasons I have stated before. I have a Garmin Smart trainer and I can put any bike on it and do intervals / ride endurance being in my own head or hook it up to a platform such as Zwift. I can store the smart trainer easily versus a complete exercise bike.

Here is an article from Forbes detailing a guy during the pandemic that chose the Atom. https://www.forbes.com/sites/paullam...h=7c4e1cd56bb3. He says it will also work with the Peloton platform although he did not recommend it. Did not say why. However, Peloton must have been in the mix for his choices but he preferred the broader capability of the Atom accessing other 3rd party platforms.

Here is another article comparing Peloton and Zwift as Aps. https://www.garagegymreviews.com/peloton-vs-zwift How to connect to the platforms then is the choice of stationary bike Peloton, Atom or other and of course a smart trainer. I suspect branding then plays the important role as well as friends to determine if one buys a Peloton bike or Wattbike.
I considered all the Smart bikes including the Wattbike Atom, Stages SB20, Wahoo Kickr Bike and Tacx Neo Bike. But not the Peloton bike because it has no support for 3rd party apps and the standard Peloton bike only has manual resistance control. Itís basically a spin bike with bespoke video classes. The Peloton Plus bike does have automatic resistance, but still no support for other apps. So the Peloton bikes are not really a viable option if you want to use cycling simulation apps like Zwift, Rouvy etc. They can be hacked, but thatís not ideal.

Peloton do have a stand-alone app that can be used with any trainer or bike, but itís not a direct competitor with Zwift. They are chalk and cheese. Only thing in common is that they both involve pedalling.

Anyway the Atom is competing directly against other Smart bikes and none of them are really competing with Peloton. I started using Zwift and other cycling apps with an Elite Smart trainer, but a couple of years ago I went all-in with a Wahoo Kickr Bike, which has been fantastic. There are many pros and cons with using a Smart Bike vs trainer so not going to go into that here.

I did look closely at the Atom, but there were a few things that ruled it out for me. Firstly it has no custom gear options, so you are stuck with its generic 22 linear step gears, which is a poor effort when other bikes can simulate any real drivetrain setup (Iím assuming Wattbike havenít since improved this). It also had reported issues with ERG mode stability, which may or may not have been resolved by now. Then there is the fixed crank length, which is just lazy design. Otherwise it looks like a pretty good bike and it was the lowest priced Smart bike by quite some margin here in the UK when I was looking. A friend of mine has one and has been happily using it with Rouvy for several years. I havenít seen it in action, but I know he likes it.
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Old 11-21-23, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by terrymorse
No, I decided to keep using my Zwift Hub for another season. My rational brain said I don't do enough indoor riding to justify the expense. Also, the 160 mm cranks that can't be changed gave me pause.

Stupid rational brain.
Out of curiosity the spec sheet says it has 170 mm cranks. It is the Q-factor that is 160 mm. That makes more sense, but should still be adjustable on a bike like this.
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Old 11-22-23, 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by terrymorse
There was a thread recently about indoor trainer bikes, and wattbike was mentioned.

Well, wattbike is having a Black Friday sale. Tempted.
Thanks, I have tried some stationary bicycles in the past but I like enjoying fresh air and change of scenery too much! 😉
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Old 11-22-23, 03:56 PM
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Thanks, I have tried some stationary bicycles in the past but I like enjoying fresh air and change of scenery too much! 😉
They are not mutually exclusive.
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Originally Posted by PeteHski
They (indoor and outdoor rides) are not mutually exclusive.
^ This.

Indoor ride may not be a pleasant as an outdoor ride, but it's much better than not riding at all.
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Originally Posted by PeteHski
They are not mutually exclusive.
Only for those who enjoy paddling fast while going no where!

For the rest, stationary bikes are nothing less than a torture. Virtually everyone I know (including us) bought one at some point, and it sits there in the basement with other unused things; just one more item to dust periodically. Come to think of it, I ought to donate it.
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Only for those who enjoy paddling fast while going no where!

For the rest, stationary bikes are nothing less than a torture.
There are thousands of people using Zwift at any moment. Theyíre either willing to endure the ďtortureĒ, or theyíre actually enjoying it.

I was consigned to indoor riding all last week. With Zwift and a smart trainer, it was almost enjoyable.
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Originally Posted by Alan K
Only for those who enjoy paddling fast while going no where!

For the rest, stationary bikes are nothing less than a torture. Virtually everyone I know (including us) bought one at some point, and it sits there in the basement with other unused things; just one more item to dust periodically. Come to think of it, I ought to donate it.
Well it is better than wasting your time responding to a thread about something that you consider a torture.
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I realize that written words, without the benefit of intonation and body language, are more prone to misinterpretations. However, my expectation from a mature and intelligent group of people (granted, it is an assumption on my part) was that they will recognize the difference in absolutes and exaggeration- suffice it to state, that I highly doubt that any of us has been literally subjected to real torture, a la Guantanamo Bay - another educated guess - so from my perspective, it simply comes down to the fact that some people do not like using stationary bikes and would much rather go outdoors to enjoy.
As for wasting my time, I fully concur that I have no business in being among the people who cannot accommodate a difference of opinion or experience - and I will happily leave you like-minded folks to your devices.
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Originally Posted by Alan K
I realize that written words, without the benefit of intonation and body language, are more prone to misinterpretations. However, my expectation from a mature and intelligent group of people (granted, it is an assumption on my part) was that they will recognize the difference in absolutes and exaggeration- suffice it to state, that I highly doubt that any of us has been literally subjected to real torture, a la Guantanamo Bay - another educated guess - so from my perspective, it simply comes down to the fact that some people do not like using stationary bikes and would much rather go outdoors to enjoy.
As for wasting my time, I fully concur that I have no business in being among the people who cannot accommodate a difference of opinion or experience - and I will happily leave
you like-minded folks to your devices.
This is a thread about a specific smart bike that is clearly of no interest to you. So your opinion that you would much rather ride outdoors is rather pointless and adds nothing of value.
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