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I did a bit of that for a few years. My objective was usually to get the person I was arguing with to use facts and reference documents to support their claims, instead of just hurling insults and parroting some internet meme or their favorite talking head.
It could get interesting if they would try to explain their side and actually make a point. Most of that went away after last November.
Now, I rarely get involved and have blocked people I used to engage, including a family member who I once cared about and respected.
It could get interesting if they would try to explain their side and actually make a point. Most of that went away after last November.
Now, I rarely get involved and have blocked people I used to engage, including a family member who I once cared about and respected.
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But did the politics change, or did we? I want to say it's the politics but when I stop and examine topics, abortion, taxation, etc. Seams like the same old arguments. Maybe this is just another thing that happens when you get older?
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Totally. I have no idea what the new cool stuff is. I've hoarded enough bike parts to last me forever. I'm at least one speed behind.
What will soon be cool is watching my kid grow into my wife's bikes. He'll start with that black and yellow magnesium Paketa my wife first had. He can crash on that bike. He'll need competence for the 2009 S2.
What will soon be cool is watching my kid grow into my wife's bikes. He'll start with that black and yellow magnesium Paketa my wife first had. He can crash on that bike. He'll need competence for the 2009 S2.
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Two ways to get off quickly:
1. In a criminal case, ask if you can consider all of the other stuff the defendant probably got away with. Follow it up with a comment like "I've just never known any truly innocent people who got arrested."
2. In a civil case, ask "If the plaintiff is saying that they had some damage because of something the defendant did, how much money can we give the plaintiff?"
Bye bye jury duty!
1. In a criminal case, ask if you can consider all of the other stuff the defendant probably got away with. Follow it up with a comment like "I've just never known any truly innocent people who got arrested."
2. In a civil case, ask "If the plaintiff is saying that they had some damage because of something the defendant did, how much money can we give the plaintiff?"
Bye bye jury duty!
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Walleye, and Pearch on occasion.
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Maybe it's just us getting older. It seems to me like the personalities involved, and their tactics, have driven the "us vs. them" agenda harder than ever before. Maybe I'm just more aware than I've been in the past. We probably shouldn't dig into this too much deeper on this forum, however.
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Having thumbed back the hammer on the Centurion Ironman up in Sonoma County, I have now entered the phase where I agonize and obsess over whether it's the right size, and the right price and whether I really should...
It's not easy being me. Consider yourselves fortunate that you aren't.
big john - you may now laugh at me.
It's not easy being me. Consider yourselves fortunate that you aren't.
big john - you may now laugh at me.
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I put up a notice on my book face page, that I would remove people for being overly political. It was great.. I'm down to a couple of clubs and my daughter and grandkids and a couple guys from work. Even people in my riding circle didnt survive the pandemic politics. No stress on my page.
I used to enjoy a good argument on-line, but I don't know if that's possible anymore.
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Maybe it's just us getting older. It seems to me like the personalities involved, and their tactics, have driven the "us vs. them" agenda harder than ever before. Maybe I'm just more aware than I've been in the past. We probably shouldn't dig into this too much deeper on this forum, however.
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Here, it's $15 per day starting on the second day. No job I ever had paid for jury service but you can't claim financial hardship just because you don't get paid, I tried before., Since I no longer work it wouldn't matter anyway
You call in the night before and they tell you if you have to show up or not. After a week of that you are done until the next time. Also, I've had to go in before but didn't get on a panel, so done after one day. Another time I got taken to jury selection but there was a plea deal, so done again.
You call in the night before and they tell you if you have to show up or not. After a week of that you are done until the next time. Also, I've had to go in before but didn't get on a panel, so done after one day. Another time I got taken to jury selection but there was a plea deal, so done again.
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No ride tonight, had to go to the dentist. Need to get a cap on a busted molar. Sucks. He doesn't even ride. Does not compute...
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Maybe it's just us getting older. It seems to me like the personalities involved, and their tactics, have driven the "us vs. them" agenda harder than ever before. Maybe I'm just more aware than I've been in the past. We probably shouldn't dig into this too much deeper on this forum, however.
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Having thumbed back the hammer on the Centurion Ironman up in Sonoma County, I have now entered the phase where I agonize and obsess over whether it's the right size, and the right price and whether I really should...
It's not easy being me. Consider yourselves fortunate that you aren't.
big john - you may now laugh at me.
It's not easy being me. Consider yourselves fortunate that you aren't.
big john - you may now laugh at me.
btw: buahahaha
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One of those things just came up on Facebook: "Without using numbers, how old are you?"
And I thought, "Sixty three". There. No numbers. Just words.
And I thought, "Sixty three". There. No numbers. Just words.
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