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Old 12-11-18, 10:12 PM
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NM Legislator bikes across state to attend legislative session

'A legislator from Las Cruces has some unusual travel plans for getting to the Roundhouse for the coming 60-day legislative session.
State Rep. Angelica Rubio said she plans to embark on a weeklong bike trip to Santa Fe - a 285-mile ride - in an attempt to break down political barriers and raise awareness of issues facing rural and southern New Mexico.'
https://www.abqjournal.com/1256020/l...oundhouse.html
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Another Arthur copy and paste in which he couldn't muster the intellectual energy for a comment.
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Old 12-12-18, 07:46 AM
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Representative Rubio's bike trip is merely political grand-standing, a publicity stunt. She says she"...
decided to do the cross-state ride after spending countless hours driving to and from legislative interim committees." At approximately 1/6 highway speed, she will spend 6-times as long traveling by bicycle than by car.

“Sometimes the politics gets so polarizing we can’t even have conversations with each other,” she said. Again, she could spend more time conversing and less time traveling if she traveled at highway speeds.

"...she also plans to use her ride to raise awareness about a proposal to create a new state office of outdoor recreation,,,(and),,,she said she will introduce legislation ...(that) along with creating the new office, would earmark some funding for outdoor activity programs that offer programs for disadvantaged and minority children."

Again, the extra cost of stretching out her travels (lodging, security, Support And Gear) is money that the state could use towards the programs she is promoting.

On the other hand...I do like to see elected who cycle and understand cycling, Although that's no guarantee they will do what's right for cycling.

Bottom line: She may be another egocentric, attention hungry politician who cloaks her selfishness with the sash of social activism...but I wish her well.
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Originally Posted by Paul Barnard View Post
Another Arthur copy and paste in which he couldn't muster the intellectual energy for a comment.
Which is better than a pointless dig like yours. The OP passed on some information, good for the OP.
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Which is better than a pointless dig like yours. The OP passed on some information, good for the OP.
When the truth is a "dig" it is still the truth.
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Another Arthur copy and paste in which he couldn't muster the intellectual energy for a comment.
What does "Arthur" copy mean?
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Old 12-12-18, 08:14 PM
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What does "Arthur" copy mean?
What is the OP's name?
Multiple valueless replies to this topic.

FWIW, she is leaving a few days before the 60 day session, and meeting with other people along the way.

But you know, she's clearly a no good publicity hound, because, no good person on a bicycle will ever be left unpunished on A&S.

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Of course it's a publicity stunt, but politics relies on publicity. I think it's a great way to increase the visibility of one's platform. Although it sounds as if she may not have a full appreciation of the difficulty of the ride.
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...Although it sounds as if she may not have a full appreciation of the difficulty of the ride.
I agree.
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Originally Posted by BobbyG View Post
the extra cost of stretching out her travels (lodging, security, Support And Gear) is money that the state could use towards the programs she is promoting.
Is it the state's money?

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Another Arthur copy and paste in which he couldn't muster the intellectual energy for a comment.
Which Arthur chose to leave pristine for the benefit of readers.

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When the truth is a "dig" it is still the truth.
Just because it's a truth doesn't make it worth saying. The sun came up this morning.
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Originally Posted by jon c. View Post
Although it sounds as if she may not have a full appreciation of the difficulty of the ride.

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I agree.
“Silly woman, bikes are for men.”

We’ll know in a few weeks, but given her itinerary, I suspect that you are both at least insulting, and probably wrong.

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Originally Posted by mr_bill View Post
“Silly woman, bikes are for men"
I don't know where you found evidence of sexism or sexual bias in my remarks, but I would have equally disparaged a man in her position for doing the same thing.

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I suspect that you are both at least insulting, and probably wrong.
Insults are de rigueur in today's political climate, or so it seems.

But I don't think you read my earlier entry #3
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...On the other hand...I do like to see elected (officials) who cycle and understand cycling, Although that's no guarantee they will do what's right for cycling.

Bottom line: She may be another egocentric, attention hungry politician who cloaks her selfishness with the sash of social activism...but I wish her well.

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Old 12-13-18, 08:37 PM
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But I don't think you read my earlier entry #3
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Bottom line: She may be another egocentric, attention hungry politician who cloaks her selfishness with the sash of social activism...but I wish her well.
Your “praising” with harsh damn? Who could miss such a de rigueur?

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Insults are de rigueur in today's political climate, or so it seems.
Crying "Insult!" (or "Troll!") is de rigueur on BF for some posters whenever their made up claims are challenged, their version of conventional wisdom is questioned, and/or their sacred cows are met with skepticism.
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“Silly woman, bikes are for men.”

We’ll know in a few weeks, but given her itinerary, I suspect that you are both at least insulting, and probably wrong.

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It has nothing to do with gender. And I didn't say she wouldn't be able to do it, I said she may find it more difficult than anticipated. Which I would say of any rider trying a longer multi day journey for the first time.
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I am 100% behind her on this, and I think it's a GREAT idea and wish legislators in my own state would do it. There is no substitute for direct experience.
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It has nothing to do with gender. And I didn't say she wouldn't be able to do it, I said she may find it more difficult than anticipated. Which I would say of any rider trying a longer multi day journey for the first time.
You are assuming lots there.

Anyhow, 8 day trip, average 40 miles per day, with a rest day mid trip, seems like someone knows what she's doing.

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Old 12-17-18, 08:38 AM
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Just wondering, how many of the "serious" cyclists here did a metric century yesterday?

On gravel and hardpack.

On a gravel bike.

Plus another 50K on tarmac.

Yeah, that's what I thought.

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Like politics isn't ALL a publicity stunt and grandstanding... LOL
An unloaded ride is tough?? My 1973 CCM 3 speed could do this, as long as the thorns don't invade my tires.
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Just wondering, how many of the "serious" cyclists here did a metric century yesterday?

On gravel and hardpack.

On a gravel bike.

Plus another 50K on tarmac.

Yeah, that's what I thought.

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Are those the requirements for earning a "serious cyclist" badge? Who knew?
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Are those the requirements for earning a "serious cyclist" badge? Who knew?
Plus lane hogging in front of angry motorists.
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Are those the requirements for earning a "serious cyclist" badge? Who knew?
Anyone on a bike offering unsolicited ill-informed “expert” (or not) advice earns the badge.

Bonus creepy points for unsolicited comments on engagement or wedding ring while offering unsolicited ill-informed “expert” (or not) advice.

Unwanted advice.

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Originally Posted by mr_bill View Post
You are assuming lots there.

Anyhow, 8 day trip, average 40 miles per day, with a rest day mid trip, seems like someone knows what she's doing.

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What am I assuming?

You seem to be assuming a great deal, introducing spurious gender arguments and your badge of serious cycling. You seem to assume I didn't think she could do it, or that I thought she didn't know what she was doing or that I think I'm any better suited to the task than she might be. None of that is true.

I'm on her side and I know from my life experience that this sort of endeavor is always tougher than we think it will be. When we read: “It’s really ambitious,” Rubio acknowledged. I take that to mean she feels the same way.

I guess I am assuming that most people doing such a ride for the first time end up thinking on several occasions mid-ride "this really is harder than I thought." That assumption is based on my own trials and my observation of human nature. It is in part why we push beyond our comfort zone. Because it is overcoming that sensation which gives us a sense of achievement. I do think she's going to hit some hills where she'll be thinking something to the effect of "why the xxxx did I sign on for this?" I think that because it is what happens to most of us when we stretch beyond or usual norms and limits. I'm glad she's doing it and I think she'll feel great when arrives in old Santa Fe.
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It’s been my experience that people who know that they are facing a “really ambitious” ride know what they are facing.

It’s the guys facing such a ride who say “piece of pie” who are completely oblivious.

But also the mansplainers who tell others (ooh, “she may not have a full appreciation”) are equally clueless.


Anyhow, she’s still rolling. Just wondering what her serious “critics” are doing each day on their bikes.

Full disclosure. I’m not rolling anymore, I’m walking. Can’t wait until I roll again, but in the meantime, I’m slowly walking.

It would take me eight days to walk from Las Cruces to Santa Fe, if I walked 24/8.

At my current fitness it would take 100 days, and that would be “really ambitous.”

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Full disclosure - I’m finally back on my bike.

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