Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > General Cycling Discussion
Reload this Page >

What's with the stereotyping and hate?

Notices
General Cycling Discussion Have a cycling related question or comment that doesn't fit in one of the other specialty forums? Drop on in and post in here! When possible, please select the forum above that most fits your post!

What's with the stereotyping and hate?

Old 10-14-21, 05:04 PM
  #1  
restlessswind
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
restlessswind's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Sacramento, CA
Posts: 458

Bikes: 2017 Surly Cross-Check. 2020 Specialized Turbo Vado 3.0, 2002 GT Dyno Roadster, 2002 Rans Stratus, 2020 Giant Fathom 2, 2011 Trek Pure Sport

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 171 Post(s)
Liked 85 Times in 62 Posts
What's with the stereotyping and hate?

Why are people so ignorant and perceive what one does differently as a bad thing or is a bad person? Be it cyclist vs pedestrian or driver, or upright vs recumbent, or beach cruiser vs roadie, moutain biker ve gravel biker, boater vs jet-skier, skier vs snowboarder, e-bike vs regular pedal bike, etc..

Seems to happen in every aspect of hobbies and cultures. Jerks are jerks, and because one has a different kind of bike makes him/her a snob or lesser valued person? .Makes me want to live in solitude.

I've recently purchased a recumbent bike due to some medical issues, and while looking for resources, I find hate. Lots of hate. "bent riders are snobs, lazy, cheating, stupid, dumb.....
restlessswind is offline  
Likes For restlessswind:
Old 10-14-21, 05:26 PM
  #2  
Chinghis
Full Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Southern California
Posts: 487

Bikes: Historical: Schwinn Speedster; Schwinn Collegiate; 1981 Ross Gran Tour; 1981 Dawes Atlantis; 1991 Specialized Rockhopper. Current: 1987 Ritchey Ultra; 1987 Centurion Ironman Dave Scott Master; 1992 Specialized Stumpjumper FS

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 207 Post(s)
Liked 178 Times in 111 Posts
A lot of it is a weak sense of self, a lack of identity. I'm a ((insert style)-biker, and do it right, all those other folks are just doing it wrong. So I have to put them down to build myself up, because if I don't do it like them, my sense of self gets degraded. And for people who do it like everyone else, they look at folks like me who don't, and say, what's wrong with you? It's all about threats to your identity.

Maybe not the most cogent thought I've ever had, but I'll re-visit it.
Chinghis is offline  
Likes For Chinghis:
Old 10-14-21, 05:35 PM
  #3  
TiHabanero
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 4,435
Mentioned: 15 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1725 Post(s)
Liked 1,350 Times in 705 Posts
Who cares? Just go ride and leave it all behind.
TiHabanero is offline  
Old 10-14-21, 05:41 PM
  #4  
CrimsonEclipse
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 1,040
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 502 Post(s)
Liked 581 Times in 333 Posts
Elitists.

Every group of people have them.
You can ignore them passively.
I haven't found an ignore function on this forum yet
(honestly haven't looked)
CrimsonEclipse is offline  
Old 10-14-21, 05:41 PM
  #5  
Moe Zhoost
Half way there
 
Moe Zhoost's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 2,955

Bikes: Many, and the list changes frequently

Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 985 Post(s)
Liked 879 Times in 526 Posts
Maybe it's just you, perceiving something that isn't really there. I have a recumbent trike and the only thing I get when riding it is smiles.
Moe Zhoost is offline  
Likes For Moe Zhoost:
Old 10-14-21, 06:00 PM
  #6  
restlessswind
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
restlessswind's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Sacramento, CA
Posts: 458

Bikes: 2017 Surly Cross-Check. 2020 Specialized Turbo Vado 3.0, 2002 GT Dyno Roadster, 2002 Rans Stratus, 2020 Giant Fathom 2, 2011 Trek Pure Sport

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 171 Post(s)
Liked 85 Times in 62 Posts
I like all types of bikes. I have a stable of all different breeds.
Hybrid
Hardtail MTB
Beach cruiser
e-bike (commuter)
crank-forward hybrid
recumbent (LWB)

I sell some, I buy some and I do it all over again. One morning while commuting to work, I got a gesture form some punk old man that told me that human power is the only way to ride. Well, I have my reasons, and when I have to pedal home at 5:00 in the afternoon when it's over 100° and 20 miles to go. It's a better alternative to driving my car or riding that way home all human powered. And being stereotyped as a snob for riding a recumbent? It's not the status, it's the damn inflamed prostate that intrigued me into that one. Thing is I love to ride, and I will find a way to keep it going when my body says no to certain bikes.
restlessswind is offline  
Likes For restlessswind:
Old 10-14-21, 06:08 PM
  #7  
seypat
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 8,755
Mentioned: 69 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3190 Post(s)
Liked 2,460 Times in 1,489 Posts
It's true that all diamond frame riders look down upon bent and trike riders. That comes with the territory.
seypat is offline  
Old 10-14-21, 06:16 PM
  #8  
jaxgtr
Senior Member
 
jaxgtr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Posts: 6,830

Bikes: Trek Domane SLR 7 AXS, Trek CheckPoint SL7, Trek Emonda ALR, Trek FX 5 Sport

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 751 Post(s)
Liked 1,666 Times in 980 Posts
Originally Posted by seypat
It's true that all diamond frame riders look down upon bent and trike riders. That comes with the territory.
__________________
Brian | 2023 Trek Domane SLR 7 AXS | 2023 Trek CheckPoint SL 7 AXS | 2016 Trek Emonda ALR | 2022 Trek FX Sport 5
Originally Posted by AEO
you should learn to embrace change, and mock it's failings every step of the way.



jaxgtr is offline  
Old 10-14-21, 06:48 PM
  #9  
ofajen
Cheerfully low end
 
ofajen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2020
Posts: 1,965
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 642 Post(s)
Liked 1,040 Times in 663 Posts
Originally Posted by Chinghis
A lot of it is a weak sense of self, a lack of identity. I'm a ((insert style)-biker, and do it right, all those other folks are just doing it wrong. So I have to put them down to build myself up, because if I don't do it like them, my sense of self gets degraded. And for people who do it like everyone else, they look at folks like me who don't, and say, what's wrong with you? It's all about threats to your identity.

Maybe not the most cogent thought I've ever had, but I'll re-visit it.
It’s a common human thing to want to be “right” about something and make others “wrong”. It provides a satisfaction that can almost be like a drug for many.

It can be so strong that people sometimes sacrifice love, happiness and/or relationships to remain “right” about something. But giving up on being “right” can be quite a liberation if you can manage it.

Otto
ofajen is offline  
Likes For ofajen:
Old 10-14-21, 07:20 PM
  #10  
Koyote
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 7,762
Mentioned: 37 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6881 Post(s)
Liked 10,869 Times in 4,634 Posts
Originally Posted by restlessswind
I've recently purchased a recumbent bike due to some medical issues, and while looking for resources, I find hate. Lots of hate. "bent riders are snobs, lazy, cheating, stupid, dumb.....
Provide links or I won't believe you.

Actually, I'm already pretty sure that I don't believe you, but I am willing to look at evidence.
Koyote is offline  
Old 10-14-21, 07:27 PM
  #11  
downtube42
Senior Member
 
downtube42's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 3,802

Bikes: Trek Domane SL6 Gen 3, Soma Fog Cutter, Focus Mares AL, Detroit Bikes Sparrow FG, Volae Team, Nimbus MUni

Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 878 Post(s)
Liked 2,019 Times in 1,055 Posts
Tribalism. Stranger danger. It's a human thing. A survival tactic.
downtube42 is offline  
Old 10-14-21, 07:29 PM
  #12  
Rolla
Guest
 
Join Date: Sep 2020
Posts: 2,888
Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1346 Post(s)
Liked 3,269 Times in 1,439 Posts
It all pretty much boils down to insecurity.
Rolla is offline  
Old 10-14-21, 08:03 PM
  #13  
Maelochs
Senior Member
 
Maelochs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 15,452

Bikes: 2015 Workswell 066, 2017 Workswell 093, 2014 Dawes Sheila, 1983 Cannondale 500, 1984 Raleigh Olympian, 2007 Cannondale Rize 4, 2017 Fuji Sportif 1 LE

Mentioned: 144 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7628 Post(s)
Liked 3,448 Times in 1,822 Posts
Why are people so ignorant ....... maybe they are just tired of people like you stereotyping and insulting them ......
Maelochs is offline  
Likes For Maelochs:
Old 10-14-21, 08:19 PM
  #14  
Bald Paul
Senior Member
 
Bald Paul's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Upstate SC
Posts: 1,680
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 806 Post(s)
Liked 1,612 Times in 764 Posts
Originally Posted by CrimsonEclipse
You can ignore them passively.
I haven't found an ignore function on this forum yet
(honestly haven't looked)
Oh, it's there. Mine gets bigger and bigger.
Bald Paul is offline  
Likes For Bald Paul:
Old 10-14-21, 08:32 PM
  #15  
spelger
Senior Member
 
spelger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: reno, nv
Posts: 2,274

Bikes: yes, i have one

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1122 Post(s)
Liked 1,169 Times in 682 Posts
Originally Posted by seypat
It's true that all diamond frame riders look down upon bent and trike riders. That comes with the territory.
how ironic that the OP mentions stereotyping.
spelger is offline  
Likes For spelger:
Old 10-14-21, 08:41 PM
  #16  
badger1
Senior Member
 
badger1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Southwestern Ontario
Posts: 5,088
Mentioned: 22 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1562 Post(s)
Liked 1,148 Times in 587 Posts
Originally Posted by Bald Paul
Oh, it's there. Mine gets bigger and bigger.
Hey! Family forum, mister.
badger1 is online now  
Likes For badger1:
Old 10-14-21, 08:44 PM
  #17  
cxwrench
Senior Member
 
cxwrench's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Nor-Cal
Posts: 3,767

Bikes: lots

Mentioned: 7 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1958 Post(s)
Liked 2,932 Times in 1,489 Posts
Human nature. Nothing more, nothing less. It's why there will never be world peach. It's not possible.
cxwrench is offline  
Old 10-14-21, 09:13 PM
  #18  
veganbikes
Clark W. Griswold
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: ,location, location
Posts: 13,274

Bikes: Foundry Chilkoot Ti W/Ultegra Di2, Salsa Timberjack Ti, Cinelli Mash Work RandoCross Fun Time Machine, 1x9 XT Parts Hybrid, Co-Motion Cascadia, Specialized Langster, Phil Wood Apple VeloXS Frame (w/DA 7400), R+M Supercharger2 Rohloff, Habanero Ti 26

Mentioned: 54 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4251 Post(s)
Liked 3,862 Times in 2,578 Posts
Originally Posted by cxwrench
Human nature. Nothing more, nothing less. It's why there will never be world peach. It's not possible.
We can have world peach, Georgia certainly has some great peaches but with today's modern agriculture and global shipping we can have peaches everywhere. They started in China and have gone pretty global anyway.

You could also dry and can the peaches or make jams, jellies and other sauces to ship around the globe.

Now world plums...I don't know
veganbikes is offline  
Likes For veganbikes:
Old 10-14-21, 09:18 PM
  #19  
guachi
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2019
Posts: 520
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 229 Post(s)
Liked 327 Times in 179 Posts
Originally Posted by seypat
It's true that all diamond frame riders look down upon bent and trike riders. That comes with the territory.
I'm guessing this is a literal take on the fact that "diamond frame riders" are higher up and therefore can only "look down" and that the other commenters don't get the wry joke you're making. Or you're not making a joke and I'm just seeing one where none exists.
guachi is offline  
Likes For guachi:
Old 10-14-21, 09:22 PM
  #20  
jon c. 
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Tallahassee, FL
Posts: 4,812
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1591 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1,015 Times in 570 Posts
I laughed.
jon c. is offline  
Likes For jon c.:
Old 10-14-21, 09:38 PM
  #21  
Troul 
Senior Member
 
Troul's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Mich
Posts: 7,291

Bikes: RSO E-tire dropper fixie brifter

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6 Post(s)
Liked 2,909 Times in 1,884 Posts
sandbaggers are always holding things back.
__________________
-Oh Hey!
Troul is offline  
Old 10-14-21, 09:48 PM
  #22  
seypat
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 8,755
Mentioned: 69 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3190 Post(s)
Liked 2,460 Times in 1,489 Posts
Originally Posted by guachi
I'm guessing this is a literal take on the fact that "diamond frame riders" are higher up and therefore can only "look down" and that the other commenters don't get the wry joke you're making. Or you're not making a joke and I'm just seeing one where none exists.
Winner winner, chicken dinner!

Last edited by seypat; 10-14-21 at 09:53 PM.
seypat is offline  
Old 10-14-21, 11:31 PM
  #23  
ColonelSanders
Banned.
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Vegemite Island
Posts: 4,130

Bikes: 2017 Surly Troll with XT Drive Train, 2017 Merida Big Nine XT Edition, 2016 Giant Toughroad SLR 2, 1995 Trek 830

Mentioned: 29 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1916 Post(s)
Liked 310 Times in 218 Posts
Originally Posted by restlessswind
Why are people so ignorant and perceive what one does differently as a bad thing or is a bad person? Be it cyclist vs pedestrian or driver, or upright vs recumbent, or beach cruiser vs roadie, moutain biker ve gravel biker, boater vs jet-skier, skier vs snowboarder, e-bike vs regular pedal bike, etc..

Seems to happen in every aspect of hobbies and cultures. Jerks are jerks, and because one has a different kind of bike makes him/her a snob or lesser valued person? .Makes me want to live in solitude.

I've recently purchased a recumbent bike due to some medical issues, and while looking for resources, I find hate. Lots of hate. "bent riders are snobs, lazy, cheating, stupid, dumb.....
The poster @rydabent has grown beyond the forum's control, we could not stop him.
ColonelSanders is offline  
Likes For ColonelSanders:
Old 10-14-21, 11:32 PM
  #24  
unterhausen
Randomhead
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Happy Valley, Pennsylvania
Posts: 24,362
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Liked 3,662 Times in 2,496 Posts
The only thing wrong with recumbent riders is they are at the same level as my rear hub, which is quite loud. So I have to listen to the hub and the 'bent riders whining about the hub.

So far none of them have been willing to contribute to my Onyx hub purchase fund.
unterhausen is offline  
Likes For unterhausen:
Old 10-14-21, 11:33 PM
  #25  
Pantah
Junior Member
 
Pantah's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2021
Location: Santa Rosa, CA
Posts: 186

Bikes: More than I have room for.

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 52 Post(s)
Liked 125 Times in 66 Posts
There certainly are going to be snobs in all groups of everything, cyclists, both uprights and recumbents, included. However, it has been my experience in my many years of of off and on riding of recumbents that people generally just think they're weird and cool.
If you're looking for a recumbent focused forum, give bentrideronline a try. I'm an occasional poster over there and found most folks to be quite pleasant. A Covid project acquisition was my older Greenspeed in desperate need of everything. I did a full thread detailing the whole mechanical restoration process and everyone thought it was great.
Pantah is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.