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Stick some upright bars and a B.66 on an early 70s Competition, and you'll essentially have the same bike (though in black, of course)!
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Also added the Brooks Conquest for now. The seat post is a little short so the Conquest adds an inch or so to the saddle height.
As things move along I will be cleaning it up a bit.
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The cool fall weather has arrived, giving me more opportunities to wear some of my old wool jerseys!
For this morning's ride with buddies, I had the pleasure of riding my '74 International and wearing a similar vintage Raleigh jersey with embroidered logo and front pockets (just like in the catalog)....
sadly, these aren't pics from today's ride. Too bad, because it really was sunny and gorgeous!
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For this morning's ride with buddies, I had the pleasure of riding my '74 International and wearing a similar vintage Raleigh jersey with embroidered logo and front pockets (just like in the catalog)....
sadly, these aren't pics from today's ride. Too bad, because it really was sunny and gorgeous!
Steve in Peoria
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This is a beautiful example. Is it missing some paint on the stays where a rack was attached or is that tape residue? Either way the rest of the paint is great shape.
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It seems that my "1 project at a time" rule bends a bit. The '80 (in brown) is on the block, but the '49 (in green) was too good to pass up. At least in have the winter project all settled early this year.
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Took the bike to a local shop to get the seatpost greased, and a new set of clinchers, and it came back like this. Both crimps are symmetrical (two identical dents with a "ridge" between them), and almost have to be from a work stand.
The shop is adament that the bike was like this when I dropped it off, but I can't think of anything I would have done that could have caused this. I don't have a workstand in my apartment, and unless I'm going crazy, the picture from yesterday doesn't show any sign of crimping.
I did transport the bike at some point, but it was laid down in the car, not put in a rack.
I believe these crimps can be fixed with frame blocks, and the middle of the seatpost is a low risk area, but god damn. I'd suspect the shop more, but it's maybe the Seattle shop with the best reputation, and one I've worked with well many times over the last few years. Is there anything other than a workstand which could have caused this symmetrical seat tube crimping?
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At any rate, oust the name of the shop please - start a new thread, preferably. You already have before-and-after proof.
It's possible with a long enough seatpost to rectify some of that by inserting the seatpost in the hole and banging the hell out of it from the inside out. Both the mechanic and the frame.
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I don't want to out the name of the shop, because it's a shop I've dealt with for years for vintage bikes, enough to know that they would not be outright dishonest. I suspect someone made a mistake and didn't realize it. I've made enough mistakes in my life to know that your memory can sometimes just be outright wrong. (tbh, anyone in Seattle could probably guess the shop just by my description)
I have a statement and photographs from the seller that the seat tube was not damaged when the bike was sold two days ago (the last possibility I was keeping in mind was that I somehow missed the frame damage and my prior photo was somehow perfectly lit to hid the crimping). I'm going to go to a frame shop tomorrow and get a quote for repairs, and hopefully get a statement that this was very likely caused by a repair clamp. Ideally I'd like to get the repair costs covered, but it's not like I have a video of someone in the shop wrenching down on the seat tube or anything.
E) just a quick question: would clamping the frame without the seat tube in place potentially make it much easier to crimp? Just wondering because the main reason I took the bike in was to get the post greased.
I have a statement and photographs from the seller that the seat tube was not damaged when the bike was sold two days ago (the last possibility I was keeping in mind was that I somehow missed the frame damage and my prior photo was somehow perfectly lit to hid the crimping). I'm going to go to a frame shop tomorrow and get a quote for repairs, and hopefully get a statement that this was very likely caused by a repair clamp. Ideally I'd like to get the repair costs covered, but it's not like I have a video of someone in the shop wrenching down on the seat tube or anything.
E) just a quick question: would clamping the frame without the seat tube in place potentially make it much easier to crimp? Just wondering because the main reason I took the bike in was to get the post greased.
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It's a neat jersey, if only for the front pockets and embroidered logo.
For me, I like that it is the jersey shown in the 1976(?) Raleigh catalog (here in the USA) on the page for the Raleigh International....
The only thing I don't like about my jersey is that the bands at the end of the sleeve are tiny. Perhaps it was washed incorrectly in the past? In any case, they fit tightly around my arms, but the rest of the jersey is probably a bit too large for me.
For reference, here are the dimensions when I lay the jersey flat on the floor:
19" across the chest
29.5" from top of collar to bottom of the jersey
3.5" across the band at the end of the sleeve (7" circumference)
weight 425 grams (quite heavy even compared to my other vintage wool or wool blend jerseys). Not a jersey to be worn on a warm day!
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For me, I like that it is the jersey shown in the 1976(?) Raleigh catalog (here in the USA) on the page for the Raleigh International....
The only thing I don't like about my jersey is that the bands at the end of the sleeve are tiny. Perhaps it was washed incorrectly in the past? In any case, they fit tightly around my arms, but the rest of the jersey is probably a bit too large for me.
For reference, here are the dimensions when I lay the jersey flat on the floor:
19" across the chest
29.5" from top of collar to bottom of the jersey
3.5" across the band at the end of the sleeve (7" circumference)
weight 425 grams (quite heavy even compared to my other vintage wool or wool blend jerseys). Not a jersey to be worn on a warm day!
Steve in Peoria
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It's a neat jersey, if only for the front pockets and embroidered logo.
For me, I like that it is the jersey shown in the 1976(?) Raleigh catalog (here in the USA) on the page for the Raleigh International....
The only thing I don't like about my jersey is that the bands at the end of the sleeve are tiny. Perhaps it was washed incorrectly in the past? In any case, they fit tightly around my arms, but the rest of the jersey is probably a bit too large for me.
For reference, here are the dimensions when I lay the jersey flat on the floor:
19" across the chest
29.5" from top of collar to bottom of the jersey
3.5" across the band at the end of the sleeve (7" circumference)
weight 425 grams (quite heavy even compared to my other vintage wool or wool blend jerseys). Not a jersey to be worn on a warm day!
Steve in Peoria
For me, I like that it is the jersey shown in the 1976(?) Raleigh catalog (here in the USA) on the page for the Raleigh International....
The only thing I don't like about my jersey is that the bands at the end of the sleeve are tiny. Perhaps it was washed incorrectly in the past? In any case, they fit tightly around my arms, but the rest of the jersey is probably a bit too large for me.
For reference, here are the dimensions when I lay the jersey flat on the floor:
19" across the chest
29.5" from top of collar to bottom of the jersey
3.5" across the band at the end of the sleeve (7" circumference)
weight 425 grams (quite heavy even compared to my other vintage wool or wool blend jerseys). Not a jersey to be worn on a warm day!
Steve in Peoria
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Yeah, a frame pump and replacement fenders are next on the list. That and some decent brake calipers, hah.
It's a bit off catalog spec because I thought the 1974 came with the mattress saddle, but this one has the B66. Either someone replaced it, or it was changed before the end of the year. It's definitely a 74 though, I think that was the only one with the top tube pump mounts.
Hubs are different too- Maillard 700, rather than the Normandy Competition. Seem to be laced to the correct rims though. Let me know if I'm talking BS, but wasn't it less unusual for bikes to go off catalog spec back then? IE swapping Altenburger brakes for Weinmann if there weren't enough Weinmann calipers to go around, etc
It's a bit off catalog spec because I thought the 1974 came with the mattress saddle, but this one has the B66. Either someone replaced it, or it was changed before the end of the year. It's definitely a 74 though, I think that was the only one with the top tube pump mounts.
Hubs are different too- Maillard 700, rather than the Normandy Competition. Seem to be laced to the correct rims though. Let me know if I'm talking BS, but wasn't it less unusual for bikes to go off catalog spec back then? IE swapping Altenburger brakes for Weinmann if there weren't enough Weinmann calipers to go around, etc
Mine is a '74 as well, and it also has Maillard 700 hubs. I saved them for a new wheel build later, but because the original rims/spokes not usable I had to replace they entire wheel with modern english threaded hubs on a pre-built wheel. When I have money later I'll have someone build wheels around those Maillards.
It also had the mattress saddle, but that was the first thing I tossed in the garbage.
Well, it's no longer in great shape.
Took the bike to a local shop to get the seatpost greased, and a new set of clinchers, and it came back like this. Both crimps are symmetrical (two identical dents with a "ridge" between them), and almost have to be from a work stand.
The shop is adament that the bike was like this when I dropped it off, but I can't think of anything I would have done that could have caused this. I don't have a workstand in my apartment, and unless I'm going crazy, the picture from yesterday doesn't show any sign of crimping.
I did transport the bike at some point, but it was laid down in the car, not put in a rack.
I believe these crimps can be fixed with frame blocks, and the middle of the seatpost is a low risk area, but god damn. I'd suspect the shop more, but it's maybe the Seattle shop with the best reputation, and one I've worked with well many times over the last few years. Is there anything other than a workstand which could have caused this symmetrical seat tube crimping?
Took the bike to a local shop to get the seatpost greased, and a new set of clinchers, and it came back like this. Both crimps are symmetrical (two identical dents with a "ridge" between them), and almost have to be from a work stand.
The shop is adament that the bike was like this when I dropped it off, but I can't think of anything I would have done that could have caused this. I don't have a workstand in my apartment, and unless I'm going crazy, the picture from yesterday doesn't show any sign of crimping.
I did transport the bike at some point, but it was laid down in the car, not put in a rack.
I believe these crimps can be fixed with frame blocks, and the middle of the seatpost is a low risk area, but god damn. I'd suspect the shop more, but it's maybe the Seattle shop with the best reputation, and one I've worked with well many times over the last few years. Is there anything other than a workstand which could have caused this symmetrical seat tube crimping?
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Out with the '70 Competition this morning. The only lady I happened upon wasn't particularly chatty and had poor taste in bikes.
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Didn't you just post about this bike getting damaged at the LBS the other day? These photos don't show any damage at all and you posted these on 9/18/2020 so have you shown them these photos as proof that the bike was not damaged when you brought it in for service??
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They are not rare. Raleigh was the world's biggest bike maker for many decades. The company exported bikes all around the planet.
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Raleighs are about as rare as pennies, although plenty of sellers seem to believe otherwise.
Fun recent observation - every time I take my Raleigh out for a spin, I see a great blue heron. Wish I had a better compact camera.
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I Have a Few of These...
1949 Clubman - "Patina Preservation Project", 3-speed 700c conversion:
Super-Course custom built 5-speed IGH/700c conversion:
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And in the queue for this winter is a 1986 Raleigh Portage touring project.
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Super-Course custom built 5-speed IGH/700c conversion:
DL-1 Restoration:
And in the queue for this winter is a 1986 Raleigh Portage touring project.
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I know some don't consider these proper Raleighs but I just snagged this '85 Competition a few days ago. For once I wasn't a day late and a dollar short. Now I need to get busy on my '85 Prestige and then get this one back in shape.
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My retro-modded 1971 Raleigh Super Course, now with a 2x8 drivetrain and dynamo lights.
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Jolly good! It looks great, Tom. Is it fully together now? Are you loving it up?
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Yes it rides great though it's quite heavy with all the accessories and the steel cranks. The tires are not ideal for gravel riding, but that won't stop me, since my slick 28mm tires don't stop me. The 2x8 drivetrain is better than I expected. And now I have two headlights and maybe two taillights, so I'll be ready for night riding on country roads.
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Yes it rides great though it's quite heavy with all the accessories and the steel cranks. The tires are not ideal for gravel riding, but that won't stop me, since my slick 28mm tires don't stop me. The 2x8 drivetrain is better than I expected. And now I have two headlights and maybe two taillights, so I'll be ready for night riding on country roads.
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I misspoke. The arms are aluminum but the rings are steel. Still heavy. I got them cheap and they work great.
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