Liquid nail question, ss to fixed
#1
Newbie
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 3
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Liquid nail question, ss to fixed
Hello everybody, recently I have seen a lot a kids around my campus with fixed gears. So I found my old BMX bike that I would like to convert, so I could just try out riding fixe. Also I have been reading a bunch of threads where people used lock tight on their cogs to make them fixed.
My questions are
1. Would I be able to achieve the same results if I use liquid nail instead of lock tight on the cog?
2. also how would I have to take apart the freewheel to apply the liquid nail/lock tight?
3. and last I want to know what would happen if I back pedal with liquid nail/lock tight on the cog? I don't understand what happens if I would back pedal.
Also thanks in advance for answering my questions
Sal
My questions are
1. Would I be able to achieve the same results if I use liquid nail instead of lock tight on the cog?
2. also how would I have to take apart the freewheel to apply the liquid nail/lock tight?
3. and last I want to know what would happen if I back pedal with liquid nail/lock tight on the cog? I don't understand what happens if I would back pedal.
Also thanks in advance for answering my questions
Sal
#3
Just smang it.
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Bellingham
Posts: 2,295
Bikes: Felt F1X, Trek 2300 Composite, Dawes Deadeye
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 20 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time
in
1 Post
JB welding a freewheel is called a suicide hub for a very good reason. If you do try it, don't remove your brakes!
Back pedaling with a fixed gear will make the bike move backwards assuming you're standing still. Applying back pressure while rolling will make you slow down.
Back pedaling with a fixed gear will make the bike move backwards assuming you're standing still. Applying back pressure while rolling will make you slow down.
#5
.
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 3,860
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
It sounds like you're thinking that people are gluing their freewheels into fixed cogs...this is not the case. Some people will put a track cog onto a hub with freewheel threads, in which case some loctite would be a good idea. Trying to put glue into the mechanism of a freewheel is not going to work.
__________________
https://blicksbags.com/
https://blicksbags.com/
#7
No Money and No Sense
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Anderson, MO
Posts: 706
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
A suicide works like this:
BMX freewheels 16t and bigger are ISO thread, as are track cogs and old English bottom bracket lockrings.
The freewheel is removed, Loctite is applied to the threads, and the cog and lockring are screwed on.
This is not as secure as the cog/lockring combo on a track hub because these have left hand threads for the lockring. When you backpedal on a suicide hub, eventually the twisting is going to move the cog, and that will loosen the lockring. On the track hub, this rubbing force is in the direction that tightens the lockring.
BMX freewheels 16t and bigger are ISO thread, as are track cogs and old English bottom bracket lockrings.
The freewheel is removed, Loctite is applied to the threads, and the cog and lockring are screwed on.
This is not as secure as the cog/lockring combo on a track hub because these have left hand threads for the lockring. When you backpedal on a suicide hub, eventually the twisting is going to move the cog, and that will loosen the lockring. On the track hub, this rubbing force is in the direction that tightens the lockring.
#8
Ride for Life
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Houston
Posts: 2,741
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times
in
2 Posts
A suicide works like this:
BMX freewheels 16t and bigger are ISO thread, as are track cogs and old English bottom bracket lockrings.
The freewheel is removed, Loctite is applied to the threads, and the cog and lockring are screwed on.
This is not as secure as the cog/lockring combo on a track hub because these have left hand threads for the lockring. When you backpedal on a suicide hub, eventually the twisting is going to move the cog, and that will loosen the lockring. On the track hub, this rubbing force is in the direction that tightens the lockring.
BMX freewheels 16t and bigger are ISO thread, as are track cogs and old English bottom bracket lockrings.
The freewheel is removed, Loctite is applied to the threads, and the cog and lockring are screwed on.
This is not as secure as the cog/lockring combo on a track hub because these have left hand threads for the lockring. When you backpedal on a suicide hub, eventually the twisting is going to move the cog, and that will loosen the lockring. On the track hub, this rubbing force is in the direction that tightens the lockring.
what happens if you backpedal? in the setup you are suggesting you probably lose some teeth.
#9
Your cog is slipping.
#10
Member
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 30
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
A suicide works like this:
BMX freewheels 16t and bigger are ISO thread, as are track cogs and old English bottom bracket lockrings.
The freewheel is removed, Loctite is applied to the threads, and the cog and lockring are screwed on.
This is not as secure as the cog/lockring combo on a track hub because these have left hand threads for the lockring. When you backpedal on a suicide hub, eventually the twisting is going to move the cog, and that will loosen the lockring. On the track hub, this rubbing force is in the direction that tightens the lockring.
BMX freewheels 16t and bigger are ISO thread, as are track cogs and old English bottom bracket lockrings.
The freewheel is removed, Loctite is applied to the threads, and the cog and lockring are screwed on.
This is not as secure as the cog/lockring combo on a track hub because these have left hand threads for the lockring. When you backpedal on a suicide hub, eventually the twisting is going to move the cog, and that will loosen the lockring. On the track hub, this rubbing force is in the direction that tightens the lockring.
#11
Hi, I'm Bryan.
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Chicago
Posts: 2,650
Bikes: 2010 Focus Mares
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
#12
:)
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: duluth
Posts: 3,392
Bikes: '07 Pista, '09 Fantom Cross Uno, '8? Miyata, '67 Stingray, '0? Zoo mod trials, Tallbike, Chopper, '73 Schwinn Collegiate, '67 Triumph Chopper, '69 CB350, '58 BSA Spitfire, '73 CB450
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time
in
1 Post
JB welding a freewheel is called a suicide hub for a very good reason. If you do try it, don't remove your brakes!
Back pedaling with a fixed gear will make the bike move backwards assuming you're standing still. Applying back pressure while rolling will make you slow down.
Back pedaling with a fixed gear will make the bike move backwards assuming you're standing still. Applying back pressure while rolling will make you slow down.
#13
Old fart
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Appleton WI
Posts: 24,936
Bikes: Several, mostly not name brands.
Mentioned: 153 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3571 Post(s)
Liked 3,368 Times
in
1,916 Posts