Does this Masi look legit? Too cheap?
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Does this Masi look legit? Too cheap?
I came across this retro-modern Masi build for sale here in Sweden. Price is approx $950. I'm not an expert in high-end Italian frames, but the price seems... low? Anybody have any views?
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Link: https://happyride.se/annonser/7-9kg-...d-zipp.152979/
Google translation of sellers description:
Some bikes have become legendary because they were so good for their time, others because they are so good forever.
Fantastic Italian Masi (ie a real Masi made in Italy (American Masi are also real, but not the same thing)) from 1979 with a very modern geometry but at the same time a place for modern modern tire dimensions - it is undoubtedly a competition bike but with the magical comfort that only real sharp steel has (depends mainly on the fork).
Built with the parts I like best, without chasing weight, the bike weighed in at an extreme 7.9kg with 25mm tires, light saddle and without pedals, now it is putty with 28mm hardcore cross-gravel tires, regular saddle and weighs 8.4kg with fairly heavy pedals.
components:
Gear control Campagnolo Record 10 (newly serviced with the entire life remaining), Rear gear Chorus 10 carbon, Crank section Fulcrum Racing torq RS (ie campagnolos record / chorus ultra-torque intended for the non-camping market), front gear Veloce 10, cassette camping 12-25.
Brakes (the most beautiful in history) campagnolo chorus Monoplanar (look closely and you will see that the arms go through each other).
Wheel set Zipp 202 with perfect bearings, new body (still has the shimano body I changed from, included) and not at all worn brake surfaces.
Saddle post Campagnolo c-record (here you can calmly save 100gr), handlebar stem Nitto Pearl, handlebar deda piega compact, handlebar cinelli volee.
All wearing parts are new.
I rode the Mälaren around the bike this summer with the aim of seeing as much gravel and as little asphalt as possible, can not think of a better bike for that, I would think that it even fits 32mm tires if you want.
The frame is 55cm long c-c, but only 53cm high, it fits you like a 55
The price is set so low that it would calmly make a profit to buy, disassemble and sell the parts, but I just can not do it.
Thanks.
Link: https://happyride.se/annonser/7-9kg-...d-zipp.152979/
Google translation of sellers description:
Some bikes have become legendary because they were so good for their time, others because they are so good forever.
Fantastic Italian Masi (ie a real Masi made in Italy (American Masi are also real, but not the same thing)) from 1979 with a very modern geometry but at the same time a place for modern modern tire dimensions - it is undoubtedly a competition bike but with the magical comfort that only real sharp steel has (depends mainly on the fork).
Built with the parts I like best, without chasing weight, the bike weighed in at an extreme 7.9kg with 25mm tires, light saddle and without pedals, now it is putty with 28mm hardcore cross-gravel tires, regular saddle and weighs 8.4kg with fairly heavy pedals.
components:
Gear control Campagnolo Record 10 (newly serviced with the entire life remaining), Rear gear Chorus 10 carbon, Crank section Fulcrum Racing torq RS (ie campagnolos record / chorus ultra-torque intended for the non-camping market), front gear Veloce 10, cassette camping 12-25.
Brakes (the most beautiful in history) campagnolo chorus Monoplanar (look closely and you will see that the arms go through each other).
Wheel set Zipp 202 with perfect bearings, new body (still has the shimano body I changed from, included) and not at all worn brake surfaces.
Saddle post Campagnolo c-record (here you can calmly save 100gr), handlebar stem Nitto Pearl, handlebar deda piega compact, handlebar cinelli volee.
All wearing parts are new.
I rode the Mälaren around the bike this summer with the aim of seeing as much gravel and as little asphalt as possible, can not think of a better bike for that, I would think that it even fits 32mm tires if you want.
The frame is 55cm long c-c, but only 53cm high, it fits you like a 55
The price is set so low that it would calmly make a profit to buy, disassemble and sell the parts, but I just can not do it.
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No expert by any means, but if this were near me, I would run to at least have a look for myself after a crash course on the interwebz.
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Cheers for the reply. It’s way too small for me and a two hour drive away, so it would need to be a really good deal, the intention being to split and sell.
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It is legit. The only concern would be that it is a repaint - and I would therefore ask the seller if it has been repainted under his ownership or before. If before one can not know if there was damage to tubes. If under - I would trust the seller if he says it just needed new paint. 70ies Masi in Sweden are like white ravens. There is probably someone who wants to build it period correct out there - so I do not have anything to say about parting it out. Even if it is a very nice build!
PS - I have no connection to the seller.
PS - I have no connection to the seller.
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worth a look if you're close enough to visually inspect. the one side of the bike that's pictured looks super clean but no pics of the other side. grrr.
frame itself, if free of dents, dings, evidence of crash(es) and paint/decals on the non-pic side is as solid as the pictured side...worth at least $350 us.
add in the components and wheel set and the price seems right/decent deal. it's all really dependent on that non-pic side...
and since it's too small for you to actually ride, there are likely easier pickings without a 2 hour drive. now if you actually fit on it...that's a different conversation...
frame itself, if free of dents, dings, evidence of crash(es) and paint/decals on the non-pic side is as solid as the pictured side...worth at least $350 us.
add in the components and wheel set and the price seems right/decent deal. it's all really dependent on that non-pic side...
and since it's too small for you to actually ride, there are likely easier pickings without a 2 hour drive. now if you actually fit on it...that's a different conversation...
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Thanks for all the replies. I'll leave it for someone who will actually be able to ride it, even though I probably have most of the parts for a nice period-correct build. Lovely-looking bike though...
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The most beautiful front fork ever to grace earth. One could start a religion based on it.
1978
1978
This fork does not meet religion standards...
1971
Not this one either.
1978
1978
This fork does not meet religion standards...
1971
Not this one either.
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those top two...mmmm.
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I would get it for a placeholder, harvest the parts, maybe and wait for a proper size one to come along, this has never failed me, something workable always presents itself.
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Hard to believe it lasted long enough for us to talk about it.
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Looks legit but a mess - repainted as mentioned-the fork crown points to a Prestige as do the seat stay tops.
GC’s get more attention price wise.
there was some overlap but this bike’s metalwork points after the GC.
the geometry is interesting, slacker head tube due to the smaller frame and less fork offset.
probably handles like a LeJeune- not a bad thing.
to fit the later Campagnolo the frame no doubt was spread to 130 mm from either 120 or 126.
GC’s get more attention price wise.
there was some overlap but this bike’s metalwork points after the GC.
the geometry is interesting, slacker head tube due to the smaller frame and less fork offset.
probably handles like a LeJeune- not a bad thing.
to fit the later Campagnolo the frame no doubt was spread to 130 mm from either 120 or 126.
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Thanks for all the replies. The seller put a couple of other nice bikes up yesterday which sold almost immediately, so they were clearly pricing their stuff to move.
It’s been nice to learn a bit about Masi, gorgeous frames!
It’s been nice to learn a bit about Masi, gorgeous frames!
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