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Old 08-17-22, 10:12 PM
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Here I thought goatheads were bad enough.

I was gonna go riding last sunday but after giving a quick inspection of my tires I managed to find and pull out what I assume to get a saguaro cactus spine. Just as tough as any nail I swear. Gonna have to double up on the slime on this next tube.

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In Central Texas its those dam Mesquite Thorns that will get ya.Tubeless tires with allot of slime can sometimes get by but eventually they win out. I once picked up a mesquite thorn in my front tire and when stepping off my bike got another through the web of my right great toe. I am so thankful it passed through and didn't get me deep. They are a bugger...



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I got a flat the other day where a big staple got stuck in my tire. It looked exactly like someone had applied a staple gun to my tire--if I had left it at a rack, I would've suspected deliberate sabotage because the placement looked so deliberate, but I was over an hour into a ride from home before it happened. Still can't figure out how I got the two neat holes running over it.
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Originally Posted by livedarklions
I got a flat the other day where a big staple got stuck in my tire. It looked exactly like someone had applied a staple gun to my tire--if I had left it at a rack, I would've suspected deliberate sabotage because the placement looked so deliberate, but I was over an hour into a ride from home before it happened. Still can't figure out how I got the two neat holes running over it.
A conduit staple got me a few months back and I was without means to repair/place -- DOH!!! Fortuitously my best riding buddy just happened to ride by, scolded at me for being unprepared, then biked home, came back in his Hatchback Caddy, we loaded the recumbent up and went back to his house to repair after some coffee and danish.
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Originally Posted by zandoval
In Central Texas its those dam Mesquite Thorns that will get ya.Tubeless tires with allot of slime can sometimes get by but eventually they win out. I once picked up a mesquite thorn in my front tire and when stepping off my bike got another through the web of my right great toe. I am so thankful it passed through and didn't get me deep. They are a bugger...



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Originally Posted by OldTryGuy
A conduit staple got me a few months back and I was without means to repair/place -- DOH!!! Fortuitously my best riding buddy just happened to ride by, scolded at me for being unprepared, then biked home, came back in his Hatchback Caddy, we loaded the recumbent up and went back to his house to repair after some coffee and danish.

Admit it--you just staged the flat to get coffee and danish. Seriously, that's a really nice outcome to what could've been a damn frustrating experience.

I've never seen anybody fix a flat roadside on a recumbent. Is it more difficult, easier or about the same?
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Originally Posted by livedarklions
Admit it--you just staged the flat to get coffee and danish. Seriously, that's a really nice outcome to what could've been a damn frustrating experience.

I've never seen anybody fix a flat roadside on a recumbent. Is it more difficult, easier or about the same?
I wouldn't think it'd be more cumbentsome, but I haven't given one a tri.
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Originally Posted by livedarklions
Admit it--you just staged the flat to get coffee and danish. Seriously, that's a really nice outcome to what could've been a damn frustrating experience.

I've never seen anybody fix a flat roadside on a recumbent. Is it more difficult, easier or about the same?
I have a RANS Velocity Squared and the size/weight makes it a PITA for rear with front not a problem.

r.e. bold -- LOL, We ride often and plan on a stop at his house after distance covered for his French Press, Publix Cheese Danish and Breyer's Chocolate Truffle Ice Cream.

Of course I never consume more calories than expended on the ride.
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Originally Posted by Troul
are you going around barefoot?
Ha... You would think... I don't wear bike specific shoes but yes they can work thier way past a thick sole at times. Often I have seen them nail the side of a foot through thick leather. The other thing is that they hide. Yep... Here ya are just trucking along walking or ridding and then BAMMM... You are nailed... Just one of those things...

Odd how they are drought resistant, grow like weeds, prevent erosion, and just about every part of the tree is eatable. Just like the saguaro cactus...
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Originally Posted by livedarklions
I got a flat the other day where a big staple got stuck in my tire. It looked exactly like someone had applied a staple gun to my tire--if I had left it at a rack, I would've suspected deliberate sabotage because the placement looked so deliberate, but I was over an hour into a ride from home before it happened. Still can't figure out how I got the two neat holes running over it.
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For those who don't know goathead thorns...I know them all too well. Aggravating little buggers. My dog's paws don't like them either.

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Originally Posted by zandoval
In Central Texas its those dam Mesquite Thorns that will get ya.Tubeless tires with allot of slime can sometimes get by but eventually they win out. I once picked up a mesquite thorn in my front tire and when stepping off my bike got another through the web of my right great toe. I am so thankful it passed through and didn't get me deep. They are a bugger...



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Yep. I have a bunch of them on my property. Nasty buggers. I've had the spines go through the soles of shoes.
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Originally Posted by Desert Ryder
For those who don't know goathead thorns...I know them all too well. Aggravating little buggers. My dog's paws don't like them either.

I always called them "cockleburrs", but maybe that's a Southern thing. I grew up in the South. And I've had a bunch of flats thanks to those f****rs.
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I always called them "cockleburrs", but maybe that's a Southern thing. I grew up in the South. And I've had a bunch of flats thanks to those f****rs.
Coclkleburrs are more round and kind of look like a porcupine.
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Originally Posted by LethargicRush
I was gonna go riding last sunday but after giving a quick inspection of my tires I managed to find and pull out what I assume to get a saguaro cactus spine. Just as tough as any nail I swear. Gonna have to double up on the slime on this next tube.

The culprit

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Could be, but it looks more like a bougainvillea thorn to me. If you're in saguaro country, there are tons of other spikey plants around also.
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I got a flat the other day where a big staple got stuck in my tire. …. Still can't figure out how I got the two neat holes running over it.
Front or rear?

All my nail/screw/sawzall blade flats have been on the rear tire.
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I always thought Thorny stuff was pretty bad in the south of the USA. But in the early 70's I did some Army MEDCAPs around Somalia and Kenya. WOW!!! There were the same looking thorns but only much MUCH BIGGER!!!

On one walkabout we were skirting a brushy plain just south of the Somali border. It was only a few klicks across but we were going around it adding twice the distance. When we asked our OR-2 why we didn't just cut across, thinking maybe mines or booby traps, he just offered a crooked smile and said THORNS... We didn't argue...
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Originally Posted by flangehead
Front or rear?

All my nail/screw/sawzall blade flats have been on the rear tire.
In this instance, the rear wheel was loaded with two rear rack panniers, so you might be onto something. Maybe the added weight made the rear tire easier to puncture.
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Originally Posted by livedarklions
In this instance, the rear wheel ...
I have had way more than five (I quit counting) rear metal sharps flats.

I think what happens is the front wheel flips them up and on occasion the sharp has tumbled into just the wrong position.

It seems to happen more often on my 1.9” wide mtb tire than on my 35 mm commuter tire, and I have not yet had one on my two narrower tired bikes. Most of my miles are on the wider tires, however.

I have had big thorn flats on the front tire when on natural surfaces.
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