skom25

Hi,

I bought Muc Off Dry and Muc Off C3 Ceramic Dry. I read a lot and still do not know if it was good choice.

I ride on my Gravel mainly on dry, but it is hard to avoid summer shower or cloudy, moisty day. No standing water but high humidity.

What is you opinion about those lubes?

Noonievut

For me, Ceramic Dry is best lube I’ve ever used. Just a drop on each roller, let sit for a few minutes, spin the crank a dozen times, wipe off many hours later. I get a quiet and relatively clean drivetrain for 200km. And I only apply to a clean chain. I did not like their wet lube at all.

skom25

You mean Ceramic?

Any issues with rust on chain or casette?

soyabean

High humidity is not liquid wet thus still considered dry.

If you ride mostly dry, and those occasional wet days you clean your bikes asap when you get home, you can get away with any dry chain lube.

Example, Finish Line Dry they label it as an all-condition lube ^O^

Crankycrank

My opinion on chain lubes is to try it and see if it works for you as you will get as many different opinions on it as there are posters here. Some good, some bad and plenty of "lively" debate. Nothing wrong with asking but it may not be as helpful as just using your own experience. Just sayin'.

Bici Veloce

I've tried a few brands and Muc Off C3 Ceramic Dry is the best. It's super quiet, doesn't fling off or drip, and keeps the drivetrain clean and quiet the longest. It cleans up easily with water-soluble degreasers. I've ridden in drizzle and heavy fog with no issues.

Just my 2 cents.

skom25

Thanks for all replies!

I degreased fully new chain. Few times in degreaser and then in alcohol. Then I applied lube three times, wiping off excess after each layer. I read on KMC site, that if chain is fully degreased, it should be soaked in lube for 24h. Muc Off is too expensive for that, so I decided to put three layers instead of soaking.

I am impressed how clean it is. When I used oil on chain which was prepared in the same way, I immediately saw black marks on casette. Now everything is super clean.

I think that also UV feature is quite nice. It sounds stupid, but it is super easy to check if lube is applied on whole chain and rest of drivetrain.

It seems that lube is quite easy to wash off with water, at least when it is fresh from bottle. I hope cleaning and maintenance will be much easier than with oil based lubes.

hrdknox1

A common mistake made is not rinsing the chain thoroughly after cleaning with solvent or degreaser. Thoroughly rinsing the chain with water and drying it is essential before applying lube. Otherwise the lubricant will not adhere well to the surface of the chain.

SoSmellyAir

Only the chain needs lube, the rest of the drivetrain does not.

Muc Off C3 Ceramic Dry smells very nice.

skom25

Yep, but rest of drivetrain will be covered with lube from chain. It is easy to see this with UV and if needed, to clean excess.

KerryIrons

200 km? I'm frustrated if I have to re-lube at less than 500 km.

skom25

Today I rode for the first time this year. Only 20 km but it is enough to have first impression.

Drivertrain is clean, but not clean as I expected. Amount of dirt is similar to Wax based lubes.

Cleaning is super easy. I had some dark residue on casette and chain. Dry tooth brush was enough to clean it. Maybe drivetrain does not look as new, but is much, much cleaner comparing to "standard" lubes.

Drivetrain feels super smooth. I had many new drivetrains previously and first kilometers always felt "harsh". Now it is much better.

I hope that it will last at least for 100 km.

easyupbug 

DO I understand you are advocating rinsing a carbon steel chain cleaned with OMS with water prior to applying a lube allowing oxidation to begin and maybe accelerate the drying with heat to accelerate the oxidation process?

oris

I personally didn't find Muc Off Dry to be very good.

I tried it out about a year ago for dry conditions and the trainer upon recommendation from my LBS. I found that I had to relube at least once a week since the drivetrain would get noisy; I was averaging around 80-90 miles/wk at that time. I ended up having to replace a chain the same year after 1500 miles.

It does stay remarkably clean however any moisture or water takes off the lube fast.

soyabean

That's normal for all dry lubes, they do have to be re-applied often.

That's what it takes to have a clean always shiny looking chain.

I never use dry lube on any clients' bikes unless I am told to because they can DIY on their own.