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Old 07-07-22, 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by urbanknight
May I ask which tire model this is? I don't think I've seen a clincher with a max higher than 120.
Originally Posted by Russ Roth
Show me a tire rated to 145psi that isn't a tubular. And at 140psi I'd be more worried about the rim letting go.
Like I said--you guys are so skittish!!

Ye of little faith:

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See in the picture where it says on the sidewall "7/10 Bar?" I know y'all will focus on the "7." I choose to focus on the "10." And unless my handy-dandy Internet conversion calculator is off, 10 Bar = 145.03773773 psi.

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Originally Posted by LarrySellerz
This bike is trued up and race worthy. I don't have room in my saddlebag (stole it from the tiny bike) for tools, I keep a bubbler, bag of weed, and a lighter. Might be able to fit a patch kit if I get a smaller bubbler but I don't like having to jam stuff in the bag. In the event of a flat atleast I have something to smoke on/offer to a helpful stranger in return for a tube.
I did not think it possible but this thread gets better and better!
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Originally Posted by LarrySellerz
I attacked whenever I could, I like showing up on the slow days because im not fast enough to win on the actual race days (tuesday and thursday.) Im shameless. Honestly though even if other people aren't contesting it a win is a win and a drop is a drop.
Uh, no. If the other riders aren't contesting it, a "drop" is just cyclists going different speeds.
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Old 07-07-22, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by LarrySellerz
Lets agree to disagree on that, but from this thread it seems like im not the only person who has considered wearing earplugs when inflating tires so im not that crazy for doing so
I think one thing that everyone will agree on, is that your consideration of earplugs is not the reason everyone thinks you’re crazy.
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Old 07-07-22, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
His repair kit is already exceptionally light. It consists of: the expectation that others will bail him out.
Lance never carried a spare tube
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Originally Posted by smd4
Like I said--you guys are so skittish!!

Ye of little faith:

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See in the picture where it says on the sidewall "7/10 Bar?" I know y'all will focus on the "7." I choose to focus on the "10." And unless my handy-dandy Internet conversion calculator is off, 10 Bar = 145.03773773 psi.
Years ago I used to run Vredestein Fortezzas, 23mm at 140. Pretty sure the 23 had a limit of 145. They were actually reasonably comfy, because they were supple. Fragile, though. I got a ton of flats.
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Originally Posted by LarrySellerz
Lance never carried a spare tube
Lance had a team car following him.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
Uh, no. If the other riders aren't contesting it, a "drop" is just cyclists going different speeds.
You can tell yourself that but a drop is a drop. Even if they are motor doping. It only takes 1 person to decide its a race
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Originally Posted by LarrySellerz
It only takes 1 person to decide its a race
And yet, you still lost. Maybe this sport isn’t for you?
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Originally Posted by LarrySellerz
If youre an engineer you should know that you can pump tires higher than the recommended pressure range, its not going to fail because you put an extra 20 psi in it.
Actually, I've seen it happen. Yes, the manufacturers put a little buffer in there, but you're running right at that limit, and piling on more weight is going to increase that (what do you think happens to a tire's pressure when you put more weight onto it?). The cases I have seen claimed pressures between 130 and 150, and most of the time they heard the BANG! (hope you have your ear protection on while riding) and rolled to a stop and change their tube (those usually have huge tears over an inch long, BTW). One of them, on the other hand, was rounding a curve and ended up hitting the guardrail and woke up in the hospital later that day.
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Originally Posted by Herzlos
Anyway, I love Larry threads, though the formula is somewhat predictable.

Larry: I'm doing something totally dangerous and stupid, here's a tangential question.
Everyone: What? No, don't do that at all.
Larry: I know what I'm doing, I'm the best.

Then there's 8 pages of arguing, with a few interesting points thrown in.
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Originally Posted by urbanknight
Actually, I've seen it happen. Yes, the manufacturers put a little buffer in there, but you're running right at that limit, and piling on more weight is going to increase that (what do you think happens to a tire's pressure when you put more weight onto it?). The cases I have seen claimed pressures between 130 and 150, and most of the time they heard the BANG! (hope you have your ear protection on while riding) and rolled to a stop and change their tube (those usually have huge tears over an inch long, BTW). One of them, on the other hand, was rounding a curve and ended up hitting the guardrail and woke up in the hospital later that day.
That whole 'PV = nRT' thing. Decrease V while holding n and T constant, what happens to P?
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Originally Posted by smd4
Why do you think a tire rated for 145 psi would “let go” at 140? You guys sure seem like a nervous bunch!
May I ask which tire model this is? I don't think I've seen a clincher with a max higher than 120.
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Originally Posted by LarrySellerz
You can tell yourself that but a drop is a drop. Even if they are motor doping. It only takes 1 person to decide its a race
Dude, just, no.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
Larry sees through Big Gravel's lies and doesn't abide disc brakes on road bikes. Larry also rides bikes that others have seen fit to discard. I'm guessing that Larry's rims don't have that factory fresh safety margin.
I'd guess his tires also don't have that "factory-fresh safety margin".
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Originally Posted by smd4
Nonsense. You think a rim’s printed “maximum pressure” is the absolute top end, and a few pounds over and “she’ll blow?” You guys ever hear of proof testing?

You guys would need a change of underwear when my steam locomotive goes over it’s MAWP of 190.
I'm not sure who made you the authority on exactly how much of a safety net all these tires built in, but I have seen (actually, heard) tires blow off before and always stuck around to hear the story. They all claimed 130-150. I don't know how much they stretched the truth, but I'll err on the safe side and not be the next guinea pig.
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Originally Posted by urbanknight
May I ask which tire model this is? I don't think I've seen a clincher with a max higher than 120.
The Vredesteins I used to ride are still available. Recommended inflation 115-145 psi for the 23mm. I'd be tempted to get some, just to see how they ride at a more reasonable pressure, but I'm not gonna drop $86 on such an experiment, especially when I remember how many flats I had with them.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
His repair kit is already exceptionally light. It consists of: the expectation that others will bail him out.
Sort of like motorists w/o a spare tire calling AAA.

Larry gives weed, which in crazy Cali is legal tender.
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Originally Posted by LarrySellerz
...but from this thread it seems like im not the only person who has considered wearing earplugs when inflating tires so im not that crazy for doing so
Whoosh. Earplugs are not a way to compensate for your inability to mount a tire correctly/reliably.
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Originally Posted by urbanknight
May I ask which tire model this is? I don't think I've seen a clincher with a max higher than 120.
I linked to it, and quoted you, in post No. 203.
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Originally Posted by tomato coupe
And yet, you still lost. Maybe this sport isn’t for you?
We all lose sometimes and I lost to heavy hitters. Heck after the ride yesterday I rode home with this gal Linda Jackson (cyclist) - Wikipedia. I mean sure she is lowkey old and washed up now but still, if she trained a bit shed probably smoke us on any race over 100 miles. Nothing wrong with losing to faster people. It makes you stronger
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Originally Posted by LarrySellerz
You can tell yourself that but a drop is a drop. Even if they are motor doping. It only takes 1 person to decide its a race
You have to give them The Look, then drope the hamer and dial it up to 400W (Any BF phrases I missed?)
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Originally Posted by LarrySellerz
You can tell yourself that but a drop is a drop. Even if they are motor doping. It only takes 1 person to decide its a race
Such a person would be a sad case.
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Originally Posted by LarrySellerz
You can tell yourself that but a drop is a drop. Even if they are motor doping. It only takes 1 person to decide its a race
The guy who thinks it's a "race" will feel pretty stupid when he looks back and sees the guy he thought he "dropped" has turned a corner and disappeared, totally unaware there was a race going on.
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