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11-29-21, 05:52 PM
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They tried to unionize mechanics in some parts of California several years ago. Instead of getting paid piecework the union shops were hourly. The problem with that is if there is no work you are to clock out and wait or just go home.
Most of my working was piecework with no sick pay, no holiday pay. and a token payment for vacation. A few years ago the state required the dealer to give us 3 days of sick pay per year and minimum wage for the hours we are at work with mechanic's minimum wage double the prevailing minimum because we have to supply our own tools.
This caused some mechanics to be fired if they couldn't break even with double minimum wage. Also, one manager I had put 6 young guys to work as lube/oil change techs and gave them regular minimum. One of them found out about the double minimum thing so the manager supplied them with basic tools so they wouldn't qualify and they all quit the same day.
I worked at a dealer where I could keep up with all of the type of work I did but the manager insisted on hiring a second guy so I quit. After 3 weeks he called to ask me to come back and he would fire the second guy and another guy he had brought in. I went back but he told me I could not take a vacation or even a day off. I agreed to that and stuck with it for I think 3 years until the dealer picked up another line and he hired another tech. Once my pay dropped by nearly 50% I quit again.
Most of my working was piecework with no sick pay, no holiday pay. and a token payment for vacation. A few years ago the state required the dealer to give us 3 days of sick pay per year and minimum wage for the hours we are at work with mechanic's minimum wage double the prevailing minimum because we have to supply our own tools.
This caused some mechanics to be fired if they couldn't break even with double minimum wage. Also, one manager I had put 6 young guys to work as lube/oil change techs and gave them regular minimum. One of them found out about the double minimum thing so the manager supplied them with basic tools so they wouldn't qualify and they all quit the same day.
I worked at a dealer where I could keep up with all of the type of work I did but the manager insisted on hiring a second guy so I quit. After 3 weeks he called to ask me to come back and he would fire the second guy and another guy he had brought in. I went back but he told me I could not take a vacation or even a day off. I agreed to that and stuck with it for I think 3 years until the dealer picked up another line and he hired another tech. Once my pay dropped by nearly 50% I quit again.
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11-29-21, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
That doesn't eliminate any labour; you're doing the labour.
11-29-21, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by DougRNS
Use self check out and eliminate superfluous labor somebody's livelihood.
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11-29-21, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by datlas
In my case, the evil boss is me. Clearly, the boss is a jerk and needs to lighten up.
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11-29-21, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by datlas
In my case, the evil boss is me. Clearly, the boss is a jerk and needs to lighten up.
11-29-21, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by DougRNS
Use self check out and eliminate superfluous labor.
11-29-21, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
Much like driving, people often overestimate their proficiency when it comes to the self-checkout. Nothing like waiting on someone with several vegetables to fumble through the key-in codes.
There are some slow cashiers (e.g., there's an 80-year-old one at area Walmart), but by and large your average cashier is going to be faster than your average customer.
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People here don't get it.
11-29-21, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by datlas
Vacation days? What are they? I need a new job. Currently it’s no work, no pay.
11-29-21, 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
Nothing like waiting on someone with several vegetables to fumble through the key-in codes.
And there is this (NSFW):
11-29-21, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
I get 5 weeks paid.
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Addiction is all about class.
11-29-21, 08:07 PM
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Slow night. Everyone must be catching up on the coaching changes in the Big South Conference.
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People here don't get it.
11-29-21, 08:23 PM
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decided to remove a hedge. the old fence, while ugly is still sound and it gives me less damn bushes to maintain. After several hours I'm part way done and have a huge pile of branches for the shredder. there is something hugely satisfying about using a pair of loppers, and I haven't got to the chainsaw or shredder yet.
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
The cameras are wonderful. The Taycan has front and rear cameras, and the cameras on the bottom of the mirrors that give a birdseye view which really makes it much easier. On the other hand, the tires are 30-profile and the wheels are over $2k each, so I'm paranoid like crazy.
11-29-21, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by datlas
Yes.
Sadly, it’s illegal for physicians to unionize, or so I have been told.
Sadly, it’s illegal for physicians to unionize, or so I have been told.
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11-29-21, 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
It is? Even employees? I was in a very adversarial House Officers’ Association when I was a res and we nearly went on strike once.
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People here don't get it.
11-29-21, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Slow night. Everyone must be catching up on the coaching changes in the Big South Conference.
11-29-21, 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
Just happy to see OU in disarray.
Methinks LSU is going to end up writing a big check before this one is over.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
People here don't get it.
11-29-21, 08:57 PM
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Riley is rumored to be getting $110MM, a $6MM house, and unlimited private jet use.
11-29-21, 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Doing what?
11-29-21, 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
Riley is rumored to be getting $110MM, a $6MM house, and unlimited private jet use.
Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
Mostly building bikes, but one of the $20 tips was for hauling a stationary bike out to the customer's car.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
People here don't get it.
11-29-21, 09:21 PM
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Took it easy on the way home tonight. 72 mph in the slow lane. Only had to lift once, for a truck taking an exit.
#freewayreport
#freewayreport
11-29-21, 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Your post read like you are going door-to-door.
Would require bigger tips to keep me in the game.
11-29-21, 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
Took it easy on the way home tonight. 72 mph in the slow lane. Only had to lift once, for a truck taking an exit.
#freewayreport
#freewayreport
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
The cameras are wonderful. The Taycan has front and rear cameras, and the cameras on the bottom of the mirrors that give a birdseye view which really makes it much easier. On the other hand, the tires are 30-profile and the wheels are over $2k each, so I'm paranoid like crazy.
11-29-21, 09:50 PM
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The idea of getting an exercise bike has gained some traction.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
People here don't get it.
