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Old 05-13-22, 12:26 PM
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Wouldn’t want to see this coming

This story caught my eye, as I am heading to S Dakota in a couple weeks. Not biking related though for me, but I think this would be quite a sight on the horizon for a touring cyclist.

https://www.zerohedge.com/weather/ra...orthern-plains
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Originally Posted by sd5782
This story caught my eye, as I am heading to S Dakota in a couple weeks. Not biking related though for me, but I think this would be quite a sight on the horizon for a touring cyclist.

https://www.zerohedge.com/weather/ra...orthern-plains
My great uncle in MacKenzie Co ND told me about Dust Bowl era storms like this. Not enjoyable
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Eek!

Wonder if these will become common. I was thinking of moving back out to Minnesota to be close to extended family and more tenable housing market. This doesn't look great though. But the real question is, is it worse than boston parking/traffic/realtors?

Nah, I'd rather be caught in a haboob on my bike than go apartment hunting here.
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Here in West Europe this is what we know about it.
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Confluence with wildfire smoke must be particularly delightful:

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Originally Posted by scarlson
Eek!

Wonder if these will become common.
Yup.
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Just make sure when you get an 80 MPH wind that it is a tailwind!!!

When I was in Missouri a few years ago, it wasn't uncommon for me to be out on the Katy Trail in the middle of nowhere, and getting a tornado siren. It was never clear what to do. The wooded areas could have been bad.

At work we had a policy that if there was a tornado forecast, everybody was to leave the office. Little explanation was given where the bike commuters were supposed to go.
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@CliffordK, I imagine standard procedures apply; stop, get off the bike, bend over, and kiss your ass goodbye.

(I wonder if anyone's ever rigged a bike sail?...)
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Shades of Interstellar as well as Mad Max Fury Road.
A War Rig with Charlize at the wheel would take care of the problem.
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Originally Posted by scarlson
Eek!

Wonder if these will become common. I was thinking of moving back out to Minnesota to be close to extended family and more tenable housing market. This doesn't look great though. But the real question is, is it worse than boston parking/traffic/realtors?

Nah, I'd rather be caught in a haboob on my bike than go apartment hunting here.
I actually have two apartments "here", a 2-family in Medford next to Barry Park. Where I grew up. No vacancies though.

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Originally Posted by msalvetti
I actually have two apartments "here", a 2-family in Medford next to Barry Park. Where I grew up. No vacancies though.

Mark
Hello neighbor! Nice area. Good investment. Wish I could have gotten in on it back when the getting was good. No haboobs around these parts. Want to go for a ride? Bet we could get a few others together.

I'd give my René Herse for affordable housing with a parking space or two. Its value is likely comparable to a broker fee in this area anyhow...

Sorry for the off-topic!
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In an average year 1 to 3 Haboobs will move into the Phoenix area. Storms usually last a few minutes to an hour and can be 1,000 feet high and miles long.
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Desert soils have a biologic crusty stuff on the surface that may help prevent the sand storms. But it doesn't grow very fast.

Don't bust the biological soil crust: Preserving and restoring an important desert resource



Biological soil crusts are found in every desert in the world, including the driest desert on Earth—the Atacama in Chile—where the rainfall can be less than 1 millimeter per year. Although soil crusts are variable in composition, they generally develop when microscopic algae and fungi, lichens, and mosses grow on and in the soil surface, entwining and adhering soil particles to form a matrix that helps to stabilize the soil.

Soil stabilization is especially important in arid areas where there are large expanses lacking plant cover. Dozens of studies have found that soil crusts reduce or completely eliminate erosion of soil by water and wind that would otherwise be widespread in these areas. Biological soil crusts also trap soil moisture, fix nitrogen from the atmosphere, and provide sheltered areas for plants to germinate and grow.
This is something one certainly needs to be aware of as humans impinge on the natural dry landscapes.
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