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Old 10-11-21, 07:09 AM
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Better mousetrap spoke protector you like for 36h wheel?

Putting together a new 36h wheel, because of the different spacing of the spokes I'm not finding a way to put on the generic plastic spoke protector that was on the 32 spoke wheel so that the locking tabs will fit and allow the cassette to fully seat. The only way I'm able to make it fit is file off the locking lip on the tabs and cut one off altogether. I see guards listed as being for 36h but they also have 4 tabs. I see some with 3 tabs. Another problem I find is that the tabs generally break after a while and the protector gets off-center.

Is there a better mousetrap spoke guard that you like that uses a different method to stay in place not dependent on spoke spacing? To date I've never had a chain overrun issue where it went off the cassette but I feel like the protector should be there.

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The stop screw on the rear derailleur is the better mousetrap spoke protector.
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Originally Posted by MyRedTrek
Putting together a new 36h wheel, because of the different spacing of the spokes I'm not finding a way to put on the generic plastic spoke protector that was on the 32 spoke wheel so that the locking tabs will fit and allow the cassette to fully seat. The only way I'm able to make it fit is file off the locking lip on the tabs and cut one off altogether. I see guards listed as being for 36h but they also have 4 tabs. I see some with 3 tabs. Another problem I find is that the tabs generally break after a while and the protector gets off-center.

Is there a better mousetrap spoke guard that you like that uses a different method to stay in place not dependent on spoke spacing? To date I've never had a chain overrun issue where it went off the cassette but I feel like the protector should be there.

Thanks.
Save yourself some bother and ditch the dork disc. I'm not opposed to them for folks who are disinclined or unable to maintain their bikes but most cyclists do fine w/o them.
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Old 10-11-21, 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by shelbyfv
Save yourself some bother and ditch the dork disc. I'm not opposed to them for folks who are disinclined or unable to maintain their bikes but most cyclists do fine w/o them.
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You need a 4-tab disc to install on a 36 spoke wheel and there is no good way to adapt a 3-tab disc. And, yes plastic discs do get brittle and crack after a while so either buy spares or look for a metal disc that won't break but will probably rattle and drive you nuts.

As mentioned above, proper adjustment of the low limit screw should make the disc unnecessary.
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Originally Posted by HillRider
You need a 4-tab disc to install on a 36 spoke wheel and there is no good way to adapt a 3-tab disc. And, yes plastic discs do get brittle and crack after a while so either buy spares or look for a metal disc that won't break but will probably rattle and drive you nuts.

As mentioned above, proper adjustment of the low limit screw should make the disc unnecessary.
Actually, it's the other way around. 4 tab is for 32 spokes, 3 tab for 36.
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Originally Posted by MyRedTrek
Putting together a new 36h wheel, because of the different spacing of the spokes I'm not finding a way to put on the generic plastic spoke protector that was on the 32 spoke wheel so that the locking tabs will fit and allow the cassette to fully seat. The only way I'm able to make it fit is file off the locking lip on the tabs and cut one off altogether. I see guards listed as being for 36h but they also have 4 tabs. I see some with 3 tabs. Another problem I find is that the tabs generally break after a while and the protector gets off-center.

Is there a better mousetrap spoke guard that you like that uses a different method to stay in place not dependent on spoke spacing? To date I've never had a chain overrun issue where it went off the cassette but I feel like the protector should be there.

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Freewheel or freehub?

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Get a metal pie plate and shoot a 1-3/8" hole somewhere thereabouts the middle. Do not get exactly centered because you lose the comedic effect.
Install between cogs/hub.
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Originally Posted by Bill Kapaun
Get a metal pie plate and shoot a 1-3/8" hole somewhere thereabouts the middle. Do not get exactly centered because you lose the comedic effect.
Install between cogs/hub.
Where do you get a 34.9mm canon from?
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Originally Posted by Barry2
Where do you get a 34.9mm canon from?
I have to do your shopping for you too?
Did you try Google?
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Originally Posted by Bill Kapaun
I have to do your shopping for you too?
Did you try Google?
NOBODY would ever post without Googling first...

Google failed me... just a bunch of "Lenses"
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Originally Posted by Barry2
Google failed me... just a bunch of "Lenses"
Maybe if you tried cannon.........
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Originally Posted by MyRedTrek
Putting together a new 36h wheel, because of the different spacing of the spokes I'm not finding a way to put on the generic plastic spoke protector that was on the 32 spoke wheel so that the locking tabs will fit and allow the cassette to fully seat. The only way I'm able to make it fit is file off the locking lip on the tabs and cut one off altogether. I see guards listed as being for 36h but they also have 4 tabs. I see some with 3 tabs. Another problem I find is that the tabs generally break after a while and the protector gets off-center.

Is there a better mousetrap spoke guard that you like that uses a different method to stay in place not dependent on spoke spacing? To date I've never had a chain overrun issue where it went off the cassette but I feel like the protector should be there.

Thanks.
I have a couple of freewheel type spoke protectors. Depending on where you are I could send you one.

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Old 10-11-21, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Miele Man
I have a couple of freewheel type spoke protectors. Depending on where you are I could send you one.

Cheers
MIne is freehub but I appreciate it!
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You can line it all up, mark with a sharpie. Drill small holes and use a small ziptie. But may tick against derailer arm, have to see.
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Originally Posted by MyRedTrek
Putting together a new 36h wheel,
I'm not trying to be sarcastic or a smart-ass, but I imagine if you can build up your own wheels, properly adjusting the derailleur and setting the limits should be a piece of cake to you. I like the looks of an original "pie plate" spoke protector on my 80s survivor bike boom bikes, but I don't like them in general on a bike that never had them.
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Originally Posted by Dan Burkhart
Actually, it's the other way around. 4 tab is for 32 spokes, 3 tab for 36.
Whoops, yeah you are right. Still the OP needs the right one and the other type really can't be adapted.
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I love my dork disks!

I would be pretty annoyed if the chain actually went into them, because they crack so easily when old, especially if it was my only 'Romet' branded one, in red plastic.

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Originally Posted by Geepig
I love my dork disks!

I would be pretty annoyed if the chain actually went into them, because they crack so easily when old, especially if it was my only 'Romet' branded one, in red plastic.

I have a couple of chrome steel ones. On a Raleigh Vector I picked up out of the garbage there is a chromed Suntour spoke protector that cleaned up to almost new condition.


I figure that a spoke protector is like a good insurance policy = you hope you never need it but if you do you're really glad to have it.

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Originally Posted by danmyersmn
The stop screw on the rear derailleur is the better mousetrap spoke protector.
But a missed quick shift can still dump a chain into the spokes. Don't ask me how I know.
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