Tubus bike racks, rust?
05-23-22, 08:26 PM
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Another Tubus protection option is the Abrasion Protection Set. Resilient and inexpensive. Tubus' 30 yr guarantee is hard to beat.
05-23-22, 08:28 PM
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05-24-22, 09:32 AM
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I haven't broken any of my "cheap" racks. Some certainly have well over 10k miles, but I don't keep track. I have run a variety of racks because they have been on a variety of bikes and carried a variety of loads. If they were all tubus I'd easily have spent $1000 in racks by now. Rat wouldn't be the end of the world, but on the other hand, all of the racks I have used have served well and none have failed. I especially liked the axiom streamliner, but it hasn't suited the bike and load on recent trips so it hasn't been used in ages.
My usage case probably isn't typical though. If I had bought one set of racks for a standard touring bike and toured with regular panniers from then on a set of tubus racks would have not been that big of an investment. Not a necessity, but not crazy over the top either.
My usage case probably isn't typical though. If I had bought one set of racks for a standard touring bike and toured with regular panniers from then on a set of tubus racks would have not been that big of an investment. Not a necessity, but not crazy over the top either.
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05-24-22, 09:40 AM
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05-24-22, 10:32 AM
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I haven’t broken any aluminum racks either. However, I wouldn’t use one for touring (or commuting) any more after watching the one on my daughters bike sway with each pedal stroke while on tour in 2008. I wouldn’t carry enough to test the weight limits of a Tubus rack but the rack is far stiffer than aluminum racks.
05-24-22, 11:28 AM
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05-24-22, 12:08 PM
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My RackTime Addit aluminum rack (photo in one of my previous posts above) is just as stiff as my Tubus Logo EVO steel rack.
The Tubus was rated at 40 kg, the Racktime at 30kg. But now they apparently have reduced their ratings, it is my understanding that the ratings were reduced to discourage people from putting kiddie seats on them.
The Tubus was rated at 40 kg, the Racktime at 30kg. But now they apparently have reduced their ratings, it is my understanding that the ratings were reduced to discourage people from putting kiddie seats on them.
05-24-22, 04:09 PM
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Damn toddlers, first it was tantrums and potty accidents, now they make us put less stuff on our racks.
it's not fair!
it's not fair!
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Pannier racks made from cromoly steel tubing are a lot stronger and resistant to fatigue failure than racks made from aluminum rod. A pannier on an aluminum rod rack will leave marks and wear -- on a steel rack it will wear the paint over time. It is not a big deal. For both touring and everyday use I prefer the strength and durability of tubular steel racks like those made by Tubus, Nitto, and the late, legendary Bruce Gordon.
05-24-22, 08:55 PM
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Probably foxes.
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05-25-22, 04:34 AM
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I do not think the OP is coming back.
05-25-22, 05:34 AM
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That's fine. It's been a great discussion.
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05-25-22, 06:06 AM
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That's ok, because rust never sleeps, according to that guy from Manitoba or Alberta or Peterborough Ontario or whenever he's from.
The op got good arguments for both steel and aluminum, and for his uses of a rack on a "gravel" bike, he'll be perfectly happy with a regular old rack.
The op got good arguments for both steel and aluminum, and for his uses of a rack on a "gravel" bike, he'll be perfectly happy with a regular old rack.
05-25-22, 12:30 PM
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I’ve been very happy with the Tubus racks.
I opted for the stainless Cosmo and Nova a decade ago for my then new bike build.
Living coastal they are still subject to some minor oxidisation but an annual light scour with a green pot scourer brings them back to as new looking.
I’ve broken aluminium racks in the past and wanted to avoid potential fatigue issues if I could, and also am fussy with my bikes aesthetic, appreciating the visual qualities stainless mudguards and racks offer to my eye, whilst lowering the maintenance which appeases my lazy nature.
I no longer drive so the tourer doubles as commuter as well as all weather shopping hauler..
Everyone should buy what they want and can afford or justify to themselves (and/or other half), but personally I’ve no regrets opting for the Tubus racks and would replace them with like should the need ever arise.
Good luck to anyone else at this particular crossroads of purchase choice.
I opted for the stainless Cosmo and Nova a decade ago for my then new bike build.
Living coastal they are still subject to some minor oxidisation but an annual light scour with a green pot scourer brings them back to as new looking.
I’ve broken aluminium racks in the past and wanted to avoid potential fatigue issues if I could, and also am fussy with my bikes aesthetic, appreciating the visual qualities stainless mudguards and racks offer to my eye, whilst lowering the maintenance which appeases my lazy nature.
I no longer drive so the tourer doubles as commuter as well as all weather shopping hauler..
Everyone should buy what they want and can afford or justify to themselves (and/or other half), but personally I’ve no regrets opting for the Tubus racks and would replace them with like should the need ever arise.
Good luck to anyone else at this particular crossroads of purchase choice.
05-25-22, 03:05 PM
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05-25-22, 03:58 PM
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Well, in that case, the Tubus Liviano is ideal, at about $700!
https://lynskeyperformance.com/lynsk...ar-cargo-rack/
05-25-22, 04:25 PM
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Well, in that case, the Tubus Liviano is ideal, at about $700!
Exchange rate plus 15% sales tax
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For Tubus, generally (and DT Swiss spokes), German on-line shops offer better prices. That Liviano is 420 € ($450). Steel racks are also significantly cheaper as well.
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One of my Tubus racks came from the UK before Brexit. And both my front and rear Ortliebs before Ortlieb stopped European sellers from shipping to USA.
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So you come out of some cafe only to find your frame still locked up and panniers sitting neatly on the ground but your rear rack is missing, the hallmark of a thief well educated in metallurgy.
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The weight of your lock should be inversely proportional to the weight of the bike.
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05-26-22, 01:57 AM
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Thanks for all the feedback, some good info there.
I might go for the steel tubus rack and protect the contact points. Stainless steel or titanium is out of the question.
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I might go for the steel tubus rack and protect the contact points. Stainless steel or titanium is out of the question.
Thanks
05-26-22, 02:20 AM
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Good luck
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That's ok, because rust never sleeps, according to that guy from Manitoba or Alberta or Peterborough Ontario or whenever he's from.
The op got good arguments for both steel and aluminum, and for his uses of a rack on a "gravel" bike, he'll be perfectly happy with a regular old rack.
The op got good arguments for both steel and aluminum, and for his uses of a rack on a "gravel" bike, he'll be perfectly happy with a regular old rack.
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