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Old 03-16-23, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by SurferRosa
Hello! I'm an unapologetic vintage bike snob. And music snob. And movie snob. And literature snob. I believe my tastes in certain areas are superior to other people. Sorry if this offends. (Not really.)
Well.., I can say this: I've always had a firm idea of what I liked. While I am dead-set on certain things for myself, and would not tell others what to do or try to make them feel bad over a cycle choice, it is fun to throw ideas around on this forum, if we take it with a light heart. In a spirit of camaraderie, we can admit that we have biases.
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I can imagine a vintage bike snob encounter would go much like this:

All was well as the spring club ride was about to begin. Riders amassed , chatted and the solo riders stared down at their front tires, rocking back and forth like always.
Standing astride his 1977 Raleigh Scorpio, Harvey MacAllister bellowed, "You there...! On the 2017 Edmonda! Just...what...do...you....think...you're...DOING?!" The Trek rider replied, "What am I doing? I was just kicking some of the dirt off of..." Harvey, feeling full of self-righteous indignation, interrupted, "You know fully-well what I am talking about....you have committed sacrilege against the 'Steel Ideal'. Generations of steel riders have come before you, and you re-pay them with this blasphemy?" "I...don't know who you are talking about..." the other rider replied, "but I got a good deal on this bike. It was 2700 dollars, but I got it on sale in the win..." "Silence!!!", Harvey commanded, his eyes glowing red, and all the birds flying from the trees. He imagined abducting this man after the ride, detaining him in a large workshop and forcing him, there-upon, to design and build his own steel road frame.

Editor's note: Now THAT's a snob!
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I'm curious. I have tried a lot of things and I determined what I prefer. And I prefer not to partake in things I don't prefer. I won't drink Starbucks nor cheap tequila. I'm not sure what Dominoes is, but I would not call it pizza. I won't purchase a crabon bike. That makes me a snob?

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Originally Posted by Trakhak
.... I wonder if Peterson ever regrets what he started.
I doubt it. The things he said in his book Just Ride were simply things that a lot of us already knew. It was refreshing to hear someone else say them, especially someone with his credibility in the cycling world.
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Originally Posted by iab
I'm curious. I have tried a lot of things and I determined what I prefer. And I prefer not to partake in things I don't prefer. I won't drink Starbucks nor cheap tequila. I'm not sure what Dominoes is, but I would not call it pizza. I won't purchase a crabon bike. That makes me a snob?

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Oh yeah! I'll join that snob-train! Domino's is awful! I was lucky enough to live most of my life near Boston, where there were independent pizza parlors with pepperoni sticks for sale and big dill pickles in jars, where you could buy one at a time. This pizza would make your eyes roll back in your head.
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Originally Posted by SurferRosa
Hello! I'm an unapologetic vintage bike snob. And music snob. And movie snob. And literature snob. I believe my tastes in certain areas are superior to other people. Sorry if this offends. (Not really.)
"Movie snob"? Sounds good. Do you have an IMDB profile?
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Originally Posted by 1989Pre
Do you have an IMDB profile?
ooo, ooo. I do, I do! On the top of the resume! Nothing like documentaries about obscure dead Italian racers.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5232490/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

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Funny story from the past. We had a sponsored sports/racing group that used to ride the fast road near me, They would zoom past close and fast with no announcement.
I finally boiled over when I pulled up at a red light and their ride leader was scolding a couple bikers ahead of me that they needed to look back and move out of their way.
The club had a web site, and I found it and sent a group message to all their sponsors (copied to the club) about what *******s the club was being on the road and were an awful representative for their business.
I never saw the club on the road again.
TWEPped them!
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Originally Posted by Chuckk

An example is not waving...
I had to laugh at that one because, although it doesn't really bother me, it happened just this afternoon!

I was coming out of our neighborhood, slowing to make a left onto the large artery which runs through it, when a fellow cyclist passed from left to right in front of me. He looked to his right, I lifted my hand to him (wearing all black kit, with the exception of white gloves) - and he simply turned his head back to the left and rode on his merry way.

Full carbon, team kit - and clearly close to my age (59 in July).

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As usual full reverse snobbery is in effect. All these stories of racers looking down upon them and their children in days of yore. Packs riding by in ignorant bliss and refusing to acknowledge a punter riding his vintage Puccini. Lycra being used as a dividing line between cyclists much like red state vs blue state debate. Chances are many current sport cyclists really have no interest other than mild curiosity in other categories of cycling.

Yet currently there is a interesting and detailed thread discussing applying shellac to your cloth bar tape. No modernists is throwing in cheap shots or criticizing the posts but rather letting it be.
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I don't know if I'm a niche snob, but I consider myself a Serious Cyclist™.
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Originally Posted by Atlas Shrugged

...yet currently there is a interesting and detailed thread discussing applying shellac to your cloth bar tape. No modernists is throwing in cheap shots or criticizing the posts but rather letting it be.
To be fair, shellacking bar tape has practical merit; there are numerous benefits called out in that thread. I'm sure there are those that see it as pretentious and overkill, but I ain't one of them. Buying into stuff that simply works as advertised - or solves some sort of problem - is how I roll

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Originally Posted by Drillium Dude
To be fair, shellacking bar tape has practical merit; there are numerous benefits called out in that thread. I'm sure there are those that see it as pretentious and overkill, but I ain't one of them. Buying into stuff that simply works as advertised - or solves some sort of problem - is how I roll

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Exactly, a very few riders currently use cloth tape and even a smaller group of them would consider shellac. A vast majority of current cyclists choose padded tape of some form. Yet none of them jumped into the discussion critically calling out the practice. Yet bring up a simple question of best sealant, damaged carbon fiber or solutions to squealing brake rotors and immediately the criticism flows.
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Oh yeah! I'll join that snob-train! Domino's is awful! I was lucky enough to live most of my life near Boston, where there were independent pizza parlors with pepperoni sticks for sale and big dill pickles in jars, where you could buy one at a time. This pizza would make your eyes roll back in your head.
Boston? That's cute.

A pizza snob who grew up in New Haven has entered the chat.

Hail To The King: Connecticut Pizza Again Named No. 1 In Nation

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Originally Posted by Atlas Shrugged
.... Lycra being used as a dividing line between cyclists much like red state vs blue state debate. Chances are many current sport cyclists really have no interest other than mild curiosity in other categories of cycling.

Yet currently there is a interesting and detailed thread discussing applying shellac to your cloth bar tape. No modernists is throwing in cheap shots or criticizing the posts but rather letting it be.
That's because shellacked bar tape is undeniably cool. Full-kit Lycra, on the other hand, can be quite ridiculous looking.
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Originally Posted by Trakhak

IME, racers don't belittle any riders except other racers.
I'm glad I spent 30 years touring and racing my bikes in Edenic peace before the Rivendell guru figured out in 1995 that convincing touring riders that racers are the enemy was the best way to sell all those pre-indexing components he'd bought on closeout. I wonder if Peterson ever regrets what he started.
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That's because shellacked bar tape is undeniably cool. Full-kit Lycra, on the other hand, can be quite ridiculous looking.
In stark contrast, no doubt, to cycling on a DL-1 in a flat cap, tweed Norfolk jacket, knickers, wool leggings, and cordovan leather brogues. Followed by gladsome punting on the Cherwell, I'll warrant.

Still waiting for someone to provide an example of racer snobbery about C&V riders. I'm beginning to believe it doesn't happen. (Just kidding. I already knew that it's a C&V myth.)
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Boston? That's cute.

A pizza snob who grew up in New Haven has entered the chat.

Hail To The King: Connecticut Pizza Again Named No. 1 In Nation

Whatever it takes. Not every day is race day.
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I doubt it. The things he said in his book Just Ride were simply things that a lot of us already knew. It was refreshing to hear someone else say them, especially someone with his credibility in the cycling world.
+1 I found myself largely in agreement with GP throughout the book.
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+1 I found myself largely in agreement with GP throughout the book.
Me too, even though I doubt I'll ever own one of his bikes.
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Me too, even though I doubt I'll ever own one of his bikes.
Yeah, but your quiver has a Rivendellian look and feel, one that he who shall not be named would appreciate.
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Originally Posted by Trakhak
In stark contrast, no doubt, to cycling on a DL-1 in a flat cap, tweed Norfolk jacket, knickers, wool leggings, and cordovan leather brogues.
Oh, you know this guy?

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Originally Posted by Trakhak
Still waiting for someone to provide an example of racer snobbery about C&V riders. I'm beginning to believe it doesn't happen. (Just kidding. I already knew that it's a C&V myth.)
Well, if you are not gushing over a C&Ver's bike, you are a snob. Just the mere act of not talking about the bike is an act of snobbery.
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I happily pay for GCN for all the live racing coverage, but their other videos have gotten worse and all their C&V vids are very cringey. I wish they would use someone who actually cares about the bikes and is knowledgeable.
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Well, if you are not gushing over a C&Ver's bike, you are a snob. Just the mere act of not talking about the bike is an act of snobbery.
Touché.
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