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LOL, no, some things doesn't need to be tried to dismiss it. I don't need to try homeopathy either to know it doesn't work. But at least homeopathy won't have any bad side effects (it's water).
It's not about not liking "new ideas". It's that some ideas are just outright stupid (free energy, more output while providing less input etc.).
It's not about not liking "new ideas". It's that some ideas are just outright stupid (free energy, more output while providing less input etc.).
You must believe everything the government says! To bad!
11-12-20, 01:40 PM
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I have reduced everything to ONE RULE! That rule is 'DON'T WORK LIFE!" In other words do everything the EASY WAY and make life COME TO YOU
not the other way round! Try it!
11-12-20, 02:17 PM
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But, more importantly: What is the relevance here?
11-12-20, 02:28 PM
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11-12-20, 02:35 PM
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As for trying being lazy. No thanks. Another dumb idea that can easily be dismissed. You still haven't answered 1) what is the relevance of telling people they should "try it" when you're talking about laziness?
Secondly (it should be first): Can you explain the mechanics of that "balance" thing you advocate, can you explain how having a whole third of your weight on your hands (ouch!) somehow makes things more efficient, and can you explain how you can get more energy out with less effort. As you should know: If that was possible, that discovery could power the universe in the end.
11-12-20, 02:43 PM
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I tried moving my seat ONE INCH higher and tipped it all the way forward and down (45 degrees)!
I then moved my handle bars ONE INCH down!
In other words I TIPPED my entire body ONE INCH forward!
It was GREAT! It takes your weight OFF YOUR ASS and puts it on your PEDALS where it belongs!
It is FREE SPEED because you get at least TWO GEARS and you go 3 to 5 % FASTER with LESS effort!
The bike also handles FAR BETTER because you DON'T STEER you just LEAN!
The idea is to have ONE THIRD of your weight on you ASS and ONE THIRD on your pedals and ONE THIRD on your hands!
The bike GOES FASTER and handles better! Try it!
I then moved my handle bars ONE INCH down!
In other words I TIPPED my entire body ONE INCH forward!
It was GREAT! It takes your weight OFF YOUR ASS and puts it on your PEDALS where it belongs!
It is FREE SPEED because you get at least TWO GEARS and you go 3 to 5 % FASTER with LESS effort!
The bike also handles FAR BETTER because you DON'T STEER you just LEAN!
The idea is to have ONE THIRD of your weight on you ASS and ONE THIRD on your pedals and ONE THIRD on your hands!
The bike GOES FASTER and handles better! Try it!
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The relevance of homeopathy was explained: It was another thing that can easily be dismissed as having no merit whatsoever.
As for trying being lazy. No thanks. Another dumb idea that can easily be dismissed. You still haven't answered 1) what is the relevance of telling people they should "try it" when you're talking about laziness?
Secondly (it should be first): Can you explain the mechanics of that "balance" thing you advocate, can you explain how having a whole third of your weight on your hands (ouch!) somehow makes things more efficient, and can you explain how you can get more energy out with less effort. As you should know: If that was possible, that discovery could power the universe in the end.
As for trying being lazy. No thanks. Another dumb idea that can easily be dismissed. You still haven't answered 1) what is the relevance of telling people they should "try it" when you're talking about laziness?
Secondly (it should be first): Can you explain the mechanics of that "balance" thing you advocate, can you explain how having a whole third of your weight on your hands (ouch!) somehow makes things more efficient, and can you explain how you can get more energy out with less effort. As you should know: If that was possible, that discovery could power the universe in the end.
You don't get more energy you get more SPEED! You get more speed cause you have LESS weight on your ASS and more on your PEDALS!
"Laziness" is not really accurate! It is more like playing hard to get! I got the idea from the book "The Rules" where a woman
NEVER approaches a man when she is wants to get married! She waits for the man to approach her! We play "hard to get" at life
and life COMES TO US!
11-12-20, 02:53 PM
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"Laziness" is not really accurate! It is more like playing hard to get! I got the idea from the book "The Rules" where a woman
NEVER approaches a man when she is wants to get married! She waits for the man to approach her! We play "hard to get" at life
and life COMES TO US!
NEVER approaches a man when she is wants to get married! She waits for the man to approach her! We play "hard to get" at life
and life COMES TO US!
You still haven't answered the rest of the questions that need to be answered in order to even entertain your idea a little bit. "Balance!" is simply not a good enough answer.
Edited to add:
Of you push hard enough on your pedals your rear lifts automatically. And if you stand completely, even more weight is on the pedals. Neither is "easier" than sitting on your saddle. That's what it's for. You don't do 50 miles (or 100) standing up - or even half standing up and think that's easier for your legs.
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11-12-20, 02:58 PM
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Not quite true; You claimed 2 more gears, more speed, yet it was "easier" (i.e. less energy spent)
LOL, trying to live life like that sounds horrific. It isyou trying to live a whole life after a motto-like platitude. Some things you have to fight for to get it. You can't play "hard to get" with life. If you do, you will achieve nothing, and all you'll be doing is waiting (while not learning anything at all.).
You still haven't answered the rest of the questions that need to be answered in order to even entertain your idea a little bit. "Balance!" is simply not a good enough answer.
LOL, trying to live life like that sounds horrific. It isyou trying to live a whole life after a motto-like platitude. Some things you have to fight for to get it. You can't play "hard to get" with life. If you do, you will achieve nothing, and all you'll be doing is waiting (while not learning anything at all.).
You still haven't answered the rest of the questions that need to be answered in order to even entertain your idea a little bit. "Balance!" is simply not a good enough answer.
"Playing hard to get" makes your life easier AND you go faster! Same with tipping your seat down! Its MAGIC!
11-12-20, 03:26 PM
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You don't get more energy you get more SPEED! You get more speed cause you have LESS weight on your ASS and more on your PEDALS!
"Laziness" is not really accurate! It is more like playing hard to get! I got the idea from the book "The Rules" where a woman
NEVER approaches a man when she is wants to get married! She waits for the man to approach her! We play "hard to get" at life
and life COMES TO US!
"Laziness" is not really accurate! It is more like playing hard to get! I got the idea from the book "The Rules" where a woman
NEVER approaches a man when she is wants to get married! She waits for the man to approach her! We play "hard to get" at life
and life COMES TO US!
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Wow, this thread sure went south. I was going to comment but.................
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Moderation note. Please return the discussion to saddle tilt and stop the off topic discussion. Thank you.
11-14-20, 01:34 PM
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I read somewhere that pro racers are tilting their saddles down in the front to tilt their pelvis and get a flatter lower back to be more aero. A coworker had his saddle tilted down and it bothered everyone who knew something about fit. I used to use a level to get my saddles perfect but when riding distances, 50+ miles I would get a numbness in my package so I started tilting my saddles a little tip down. Its not pronounced but it worked. I don't ride much more than 30 miles at a time these days. My bars are all set below my saddle and I'm older and pretty over weight these days but I don't have problems with my hands or shoulders or neck.
I think fit is what ever you are comfortable with. Just get out and ride...
I think fit is what ever you are comfortable with. Just get out and ride...
11-14-20, 06:13 PM
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I read somewhere that pro racers are tilting their saddles down in the front to tilt their pelvis and get a flatter lower back to be more aero. A coworker had his saddle tilted down and it bothered everyone who knew something about fit. I used to use a level to get my saddles perfect but when riding distances, 50+ miles I would get a numbness in my package so I started tilting my saddles a little tip down. Its not pronounced but it worked. I don't ride much more than 30 miles at a time these days. My bars are all set below my saddle and I'm older and pretty over weight these days but I don't have problems with my hands or shoulders or neck.
I think fit is what ever you are comfortable with. Just get out and ride...
I think fit is what ever you are comfortable with. Just get out and ride...
11-16-20, 08:26 AM
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I read somewhere that pro racers are tilting their saddles down in the front to tilt their pelvis and get a flatter lower back to be more aero. A coworker had his saddle tilted down and it bothered everyone who knew something about fit. I used to use a level to get my saddles perfect but when riding distances, 50+ miles I would get a numbness in my package so I started tilting my saddles a little tip down. Its not pronounced but it worked. I don't ride much more than 30 miles at a time these days. My bars are all set below my saddle and I'm older and pretty over weight these days but I don't have problems with my hands or shoulders or neck.
I think fit is what ever you are comfortable with. Just get out and ride...
I think fit is what ever you are comfortable with. Just get out and ride...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyE67jKp1To&ab_channel=BikeFitAdviser
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53vbdNrkev0&ab_channel=BikeFitAdviser
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DW-J...BikeFitAdviser
11-16-20, 08:58 AM
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100mi isnt a long ride?
dude.
Of course a 100mi ride is long. Maybe .1% of recreational rides in the US are over 100mi. Relatively few recreational cyclists, even enthusiasts, ride a century. And even fewer ride them with any sort of regularity. That is because...they are long rides.
dude.
Of course a 100mi ride is long. Maybe .1% of recreational rides in the US are over 100mi. Relatively few recreational cyclists, even enthusiasts, ride a century. And even fewer ride them with any sort of regularity. That is because...they are long rides.
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100mi isnt a long ride?
dude.
Of course a 100mi ride is long. Maybe .1% of recreational rides in the US are over 100mi. Relatively few recreational cyclists, even enthusiasts, ride a century. And even fewer ride them with any sort of regularity. That is because...they are long rides.
dude.
Of course a 100mi ride is long. Maybe .1% of recreational rides in the US are over 100mi. Relatively few recreational cyclists, even enthusiasts, ride a century. And even fewer ride them with any sort of regularity. That is because...they are long rides.
(I meant to say that a pro or very fit rider can get away with very aggressive position, on a ride lake that, compromising comfort)
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I'm not sure if you can tell or not but my saddle is pointed down.
11-16-20, 10:57 AM
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That saddle is likely flexible enough that you're sitting in a shallow trough that is effectively level where your weight is centered. That's why riders can often get away with using a saddle that's tilted down a couple of degrees.
The less flexible the saddle, the closer to level the saddle will be, assuming that the rider does enough mileage for the bike fit to matter. I can't recall seeing any pictures of pro riders with their saddles set more than a degree or two away from dead level, if at all.
The less flexible the saddle, the closer to level the saddle will be, assuming that the rider does enough mileage for the bike fit to matter. I can't recall seeing any pictures of pro riders with their saddles set more than a degree or two away from dead level, if at all.
11-16-20, 11:18 AM
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Edit: I see on your profile that one of your interests is "long distance cycling". So, basically "going light and go far". If 100 miles is not "long distance", what constitutes "long distance"? 406 miles in 24h?
https://omniumcargo.dk/2013/06/02/655km-in-24-hours/
No, that's not me. I consider things like that to be stunts and not really what one could do unless going superlight and have someone pick you up in a van.It's an average of 17 mph.
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