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Retro roadies- old frames with STI's or Ergos

Old 06-18-14, 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by edfungus

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Not really STI or Ergo, but pretty much the same idea. I wonder why there aren't more of these bikes with Sram components?
Very nice. Is that a single aero shifter mount? What did you use to mount the cable stops to?
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Old 06-18-14, 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by seypat
Very nice. Is that a single aero shifter mount? What did you use to mount the cable stops to?
It is an aero shifter mount that I modified. I bought another mount and cut off an extrusion from the side so it is flush and mounted two flat back cable stops to it. One side took the original screw while the other used the screws from the cable stops because the original was a tad short. The treading was different but the cable stop screw threads were wider than the original so it screws on tight but might have ruined the original threading. Also I removed the the grey cable tension adjusters since they hit the frame when mounted.


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Old 06-18-14, 01:19 PM
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I have the Shimano 600 version. I have tools and access to small pieces of scrap metal. I was thinking about fabricating something that looks like a clamp but will fit over the existing boss. I haven't done anything yet though.

Or I could just use a clamp on cable stops. But where is the fun in that?
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Old 06-19-14, 04:43 AM
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Originally Posted by metalpossum
Because the SRAM components are the wrong colour (not silver) and very non-traditional looking.
There is a reason I used polished aluminium Campagnolo parts with anodized grey rims and a few other classic looking accessories.
From a distance, nobody can tell it's built up on entirely new components.

It's similar blasphemy fitting a carbon seatpost into a steel frame, or a steel seatpost into a carbon frame.
Now this is interesting! When I came to upgrading my 1987 Ron Cooper I knew I wanted a modern set-up (10 spd/gear changing on bars...) but there was still a question over the whole retro-aesthetic. My first thought (naturally) turned to Campag, and silver Athena, but blasphemous as this might sound to some, I actually found SRAM better looking. (It's not as if I was swayed by experience; I knew little about SRAM and you don't see an awful lot of it in the UK.) Shimano was always out of the question because of their ridiculously ugly cranks (which appear to be getting slightly less ugly now, but still...)

Maybe it's a matter of degree; I'm happy to have a bit of carbon on the bike here and there. Even in the '80s and '90s bikes had a mix of black/grey/silver components, it just depends where on the bike the parts are. (For example, I think black hubs and spokes look heavy.) But I'd draw the line at things like deep section carbon rims, loud logos, etc. If others wish to accessorise as much as possible with silver parts, that can also work. If I'd gone down the route of silver rims, that might have swayed me on a silver group set and gum wall tyres rather than the black/white theme which I think works pretty well.

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Old 06-19-14, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by PhilPub
Now this is interesting! When I came to upgrading my 1987 Ron Cooper I knew I wanted a modern set-up (10 spd/gear changing on bars...) but there was still a question over the whole retro-aesthetic. My first thought (naturally) turned to Campag, and silver Athena, but blasphemous as this might sound to some, I actually found SRAM better looking. (It's not as if I was swayed by experience; I knew little about SRAM and you don't see an awful lot of it in the UK.) Shimano was always out of the question because of their ridiculously ugly cranks (which appear to be getting slightly less ugly now, but still...)

Maybe it's a matter of degree; I'm happy to have a bit of carbon on the bike here and there. Even in the '80s and '90s bikes had a mix of black/grey/silver components, it just depends where on the bike the parts are. (For example, I think black hubs and spokes look heavy.) But I'd draw the line at things like deep section carbon rims, loud logos, etc. If others wish to accessorise as much as possible with silver parts, that can also work. If I'd gone down the route of silver rims, that might have swayed me on a silver group set and gum wall tyres rather than the black/white theme which I think works pretty well.
It doesn't look as bad as I was thinking, the rims do have that classic profile to them. It can look a bit busy, but I suppose the 80's and 90's were busy times full of busy styles and colour options too, as you mentioned.


My bike has been posted on here before... but for the sake of showing off the all-silver possibilities (minus rims, which are anodized grey like the 80's and early 90's rims.)
It's a dated photo, I didn't have my stainless bottle cage and toe-clips on it at this stage.

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Old 06-19-14, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by PhilPub
Now this is interesting! When I came to upgrading my 1987 Ron Cooper I knew I wanted a modern set-up (10 spd/gear changing on bars...) but there was still a question over the whole retro-aesthetic. My first thought (naturally) turned to Campag, and silver Athena, but blasphemous as this might sound to some, I actually found SRAM better looking. (It's not as if I was swayed by experience; I knew little about SRAM and you don't see an awful lot of it in the UK.) Shimano was always out of the question because of their ridiculously ugly cranks (which appear to be getting slightly less ugly now, but still...)

Maybe it's a matter of degree; I'm happy to have a bit of carbon on the bike here and there. Even in the '80s and '90s bikes had a mix of black/grey/silver components, it just depends where on the bike the parts are. (For example, I think black hubs and spokes look heavy.) But I'd draw the line at things like deep section carbon rims, loud logos, etc. If others wish to accessorise as much as possible with silver parts, that can also work. If I'd gone down the route of silver rims, that might have swayed me on a silver group set and gum wall tyres rather than the black/white theme which I think works pretty well.

Sorry, but I'd have to get out the 1000 sandpaper and make those crank arms and shifter levers all black. Looks like a bird flew over the bike and hit a triple...destroys the elegance.... Once they're black, though, tighten the helmet, and sink the quads into a pedal....
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Old 06-19-14, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by thenomad
black and white just works
Especially on an Ironman.
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Old 06-19-14, 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by metalpossum
It doesn't look as bad as I was thinking, the rims do have that classic profile to them. It can look a bit busy, but I suppose the 80's and 90's were busy times full of busy styles and colour options too, as you mentioned.


My bike has been posted on here before... but for the sake of showing off the all-silver possibilities (minus rims, which are anodized grey like the 80's and early 90's rims.)
It's a dated photo, I didn't have my stainless bottle cage and toe-clips on it at this stage.

Swallows with a good drop just look fast. You know the rider isn't messing around...
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Old 06-20-14, 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by RobbieTunes
Sorry, but I'd have to get out the 1000 sandpaper and make those crank arms and shifter levers all black. Looks like a bird flew over the bike and hit a triple...destroys the elegance.... Once they're black, though, tighten the helmet, and sink the quads into a pedal....
I quite like them. The only part I'm not so keen on - not that it bothers me that much - is the massive SRAM logos on the inside of the crank arms. I'd be tempted to have a go at them but I'd be worried about making a mess of it.
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Old 06-22-14, 02:24 AM
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Originally Posted by RobbieTunes
Swallows with a good drop just look fast. You know the rider isn't messing around...
Actually, I just had an obsessive/non-negotiable high budget, and some good taste. I couldn't really afford the bike, but I got the frame cheap ($150 NZD), and the more I looked at it, the more I kept turning down the low-budget brands like Shimano and Microshift. It would have been like putting hub-caps on a Ferrari. I guess if you love something enough, you'll sacrifice 1st world living for just a moment, to help pay for it; alcohol, drugs, tobacco, gambling, well made bicycles.

And yes, it is an extremely quick feeling bike, the geometries are steep, short wheelbase, it's a very direct and responsive feeling. I'm no athlete though, I just work as a bike mechanic, I commute on this of all things, just because I can.
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Old 06-27-14, 10:18 AM
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Here's some better shots of the De Rosa. It has been turning heads during slow bits and intersection stops, but I try and keep all that to a minimum.




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Old 06-27-14, 02:20 PM
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I just finished building this one up today. It's a 1985 Nishiki Team Issue. Most of the components were removed from my old Fuji, which had suffered some damage and was no longer safe to ride. I got a few new bits as well, including the blue Brooks Swallow saddle, the Dura-Ace 7800 brakes, and new Nitto stem and handlebar. Overall, it's a pretty slick ride, and I'm looking forward to taking it out on the road this evening!

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Old 06-28-14, 11:51 AM
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1990 Fuji Ace
Mish-mash parts bin stuff:
Shimano Tiagra (shifters, front der) 105 (hubs), Ultegra (rear der, cassette), Sram Rival (cranks, cups, chain), Look Keos, Uno seat post, Specialized Toupe, Miche brakes, Most (Pinarello house brand) bars and stem...
Rides nice.
Real nice.
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Old 07-01-14, 09:44 AM
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Upgraded from 8 speed Veloce to 10 speed 105!

Columbus EL/OS frame (my best guess)
5700 groupset (compact 50x34T) except:
6700 bottom bracket
Older 90's era aero Dura Ace seat post
Ambrosio Balance 32H laced to Ulterga 6600 hubs
Vittoria Rubino 700x25c tires.
3TTT stem with Bontrager SSR VR-C compact handlebars (26.0mm clamp compatible), Fizik 3mm performance black tape
Jagwire Road Pro set (brake and shifter cables and housings)
Madison Prime saddle.

9610g weighted as pictured here.

I could shave off some grams with Conti GP4000s tires probably and some other stuff.
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Here's my contribution to the thread.

It's a 1993 (I believe), Bianchi Campione Del Mondo with Tange Infinity tubeset. It originally came with full 7-speed RX100 components and I've been gradually replacing everything with Sram rival. Still using the RX100 front derailleur and dual pivot brakes. I've kept all the old parts so it can be returned to original if needed. I replaced the stem with an inexpensive easton and the bars with an equally inexpensive dimension shallow drops. I also found a Thomson seatpost to replace the weird-sized 26.8mm original.

This has been a budget build, but eventually I'd like to upgrade the wheels, saddle, stem and tires. For now it rides pretty well and I love it.




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Old 07-01-14, 04:40 PM
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^That's one hot looking Bianchi dude!
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Originally Posted by anixi
^That's one hot looking Bianchi dude!
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Old 07-02-14, 03:46 AM
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^^^^^^^^
De Rosa
Rampon (??)
Bianchi

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Thanks, managed to take a proper shot of the bike on the road, have to say 10 speed 105 is a joy to use, very crisp shifting and setting up the bottom bracket and cranks seems like a child's play!

Sorry for twice posting the same bicycle, here's a clickable thumbnail to save page space:
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Thanks for the complements!

There are so many beautiful bikes in this thread it's almost too much to take in. Great work everyone.
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Originally Posted by dedndcrusr
Here's my contribution to the thread.

It's a 1993 (I believe), Bianchi Campione Del Mondo with Tange Infinity tubeset. It originally came with full 7-speed RX100 components and I've been gradually replacing everything with Sram rival. Still using the RX100 front derailleur and dual pivot brakes. I've kept all the old parts so it can be returned to original if needed. I replaced the stem with an inexpensive easton and the bars with an equally inexpensive dimension shallow drops. I also found a Thomson seatpost to replace the weird-sized 26.8mm original.

This has been a budget build, but eventually I'd like to upgrade the wheels, saddle, stem and tires. For now it rides pretty well and I love it.




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Originally Posted by anixi
^That's one hot looking Bianchi dude!
Except for the wired computer... yuck. That bike deserves better
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83 De Rosa Professional with 2014 Campy Athena - maiden voyage ride




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83 De Rosa Professional with 2014 Campy Athena - maiden voyage ride




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