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08-20-21, 04:23 PM
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Mrs. GeneJockey told me last week that when she was a kid, and her Dad came home from work, she'd beg him to play with her, but he'd say, "Nah. That's too much like work!"
I not only found this heartbreaking, but also it led me to wonder what he did for work, that it was so much like playing with his own children....
I not only found this heartbreaking, but also it led me to wonder what he did for work, that it was so much like playing with his own children....
08-20-21, 04:25 PM
#5252
Klaatu..Verata..Necktie?
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08-20-21, 04:36 PM
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Should Be More Popular
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Of course I agree. And even though I usually ride the Habanero, I have zero interest in getting a PM. It’s enough for me to have it on the trainer.
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08-20-21, 04:42 PM
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70 is a good-size group, but some of the BIG groups in the So Cal area will typically be well north of 100 riders. Those rides are all FAST. Fast does a good job of filtering out the squirrels.
I've ridden with and raced against La Grange club members for years. Everyone I've come across has been good people and good riders.
I've ridden with and raced against La Grange club members for years. Everyone I've come across has been good people and good riders.
But I am talking about only slight wobblers, and it seems every club ride has one or two like this, which is why I am starting to prefer private “by invitation only” rides with my friends because we are all safe and careful, and we can trust each other. The older I get, the more I want to minimize risk of crashing.
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08-20-21, 04:47 PM
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It's like the old saying, "The man with a watch always knows what time it is. The man with TWO watches is never sure."
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08-20-21, 04:50 PM
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But the man without a watch is happier.
08-20-21, 04:53 PM
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So it is
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I did four club/group rides with LaGrange club here in LA. Their rides are open (membership not needed). Compared to my club, two major differences stand out:
First, the number of riders is HUGE. Sunday’s ride had about 70 riders. The other rides had around 20-30 riders. My club typically has 6-15 cyclists on a ride. If more than 15 it’s almost a given that they will split into two groups.
Second, these men and women really know how to ride safely. Pretty much everyone was steady and stable and held their lines. I did not see a single wobbly/squirrelly rider. In my club, despite our best efforts to correct or weed out bad behavior, there is almost always a few riders who are either inexperienced and/or oblivious which, to be honest, makes me a little nervous riding near them. It was a non-issue here. I must find out their secret.
First, the number of riders is HUGE. Sunday’s ride had about 70 riders. The other rides had around 20-30 riders. My club typically has 6-15 cyclists on a ride. If more than 15 it’s almost a given that they will split into two groups.
Second, these men and women really know how to ride safely. Pretty much everyone was steady and stable and held their lines. I did not see a single wobbly/squirrelly rider. In my club, despite our best efforts to correct or weed out bad behavior, there is almost always a few riders who are either inexperienced and/or oblivious which, to be honest, makes me a little nervous riding near them. It was a non-issue here. I must find out their secret.
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08-20-21, 04:54 PM
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08-20-21, 04:58 PM
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08-20-21, 05:02 PM
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Cool. For whatever reasons, our club has some members who are not quite so safe. They wobble and/or ride slighly erratically, or stand up without announcement, these are typically only a little dangerous but the club is not good at telling the bad actors to clean up their act. We did have one rider who was clearly a menace and had attempts at remediation that failed, and he was banned from the club.
But I am talking about only slight wobblers, and it seems every club ride has one or two like this, which is why I am starting to prefer private “by invitation only” rides with my friends because we are all safe and careful, and we can trust each other. The older I get, the more I want to minimize risk of crashing.
But I am talking about only slight wobblers, and it seems every club ride has one or two like this, which is why I am starting to prefer private “by invitation only” rides with my friends because we are all safe and careful, and we can trust each other. The older I get, the more I want to minimize risk of crashing.
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08-20-21, 05:13 PM
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All this talk of getting old and worrying about crashing, and squirrely riders is making me question the wisdom of organizing that C&V ride tomorrow.... 
No idea how many riders will turn up. Could be just SwimmerMike and me, which would be fine. I'm not expecting a throng, but I could be wrong.
No idea how many riders will turn up. Could be just SwimmerMike and me, which would be fine. I'm not expecting a throng, but I could be wrong.
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08-20-21, 05:18 PM
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08-20-21, 05:29 PM
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08-20-21, 05:53 PM
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08-20-21, 05:57 PM
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08-20-21, 06:11 PM
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08-20-21, 06:15 PM
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BITD, I rode front Montrose over Dallas Divide then most of the way up Lizard Head on the penultimate day of a tour to Cortez. Tough stretch.
08-20-21, 06:22 PM
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smelling the roses
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Cool. For whatever reasons, our club has some members who are not quite so safe. They wobble and/or ride slighly erratically, or stand up without announcement, these are typically only a little dangerous but the club is not good at telling the bad actors to clean up their act. We did have one rider who was clearly a menace and had attempts at remediation that failed, and he was banned from the club.
But I am talking about only slight wobblers, and it seems every club ride has one or two like this, which is why I am starting to prefer private “by invitation only” rides with my friends because we are all safe and careful, and we can trust each other. The older I get, the more I want to minimize risk of crashing.
But I am talking about only slight wobblers, and it seems every club ride has one or two like this, which is why I am starting to prefer private “by invitation only” rides with my friends because we are all safe and careful, and we can trust each other. The older I get, the more I want to minimize risk of crashing.
Power came back about an hour ago.
08-20-21, 06:28 PM
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smelling the roses
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I tell.myself that this knee has been this painful before and has made a complete recovery. Then I ask myself how many more times can I ask that of it.
#notoverjoyedatmyprospects
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08-20-21, 06:30 PM
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Tomorrow we hike to Alta Lakes. I've never been at this altitude. Anxious to see how it goes.
08-20-21, 06:34 PM
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All of Mèxico is on Central Time, with the exception of the Maya Riviera. And only part of the year. Better to confuse the whole country than confuse the tourists.
08-20-21, 06:38 PM
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One my first and only (sprint) triathlon, I was training in an outdoor pool in Mérida. Water temp hovered around 104A. In Virginia, the lake water was 76A. That first leg was tough
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08-20-21, 06:46 PM
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I used to look at the Estimated Power and think, "It's so spiky! It can't possibly be real." Then I got a Smart Trainer with built in power meter and damned if the power trace isn't all spiky. The Scientist in my says I should get a power meter so I can see what the power is measured more directly than passing through the whole drivetrain, the wheel, the tire/roller interface, and whatever internals in the trainer before power is measured. But that jut brings back the question of how to deal with 8 bikes.
08-20-21, 06:47 PM
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08-20-21, 06:48 PM
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You will never see me in a neatly trimmed beard. Except lately I've been doing the goattee thing so I can wear an N95. But the mutton chops temain full and bushy.
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