GhostRider62

There is no money in that.

Polaris OBark

That makes no sense. The tire costs the same. The wheel costs the same. Maybe you use a bit less sealant, but the tube costs money (especially latex).

I looked on the Rene Herse web page, and they very briefly mention putting sealant in tubes as an option (without going into any detail). I get the impression they aren't big fans of tubeless (even before this), and don't recommend it for anything narrower than 35mm.

GhostRider62

Everybody has tons of old technology in a declining market. The money is selling the sizzle in new crap. Make sense now?

Polaris OBark

no

GhostRider62

It is like disc brakes. Obsolete the old stuff to sell the new stuff. That is where the money is. The vast majority of riders have tons of old rim braked clincher wheels. Moving everyone to disc brakes and tubeless effectively creates an entirely new market. You need a different bike and a lot of new gear. The replacement market for tubed tires and rim braked wheels is tiny in comparison. It is hard to buy such a road bike. If you can't get that, nothing will help you.

Polaris OBark

You don't need a different anything for tubeless, except valve stems and sealant, neither of which cost much (although my Peaty's valve stems did).

Polaris OBark

It isn't that I don't "get that." It is that I think your "logic" used to arrive at your flawed conclusion, starting with your faulty premise, is a set of complete non-sequiturs.

In fact, what makes this quite silly is that Rene Herse sells mostly retro-type bikes and components, all with rim brakes, square taper crank/bb, etc. They seem fairly luke-warm about tubeless tires, and don't have any tires designed as tubeless-only. (They even call the subset of tires they sell "tubeless-compatible", suggest riding them with tubes is equally efficient, and the only specific tubless item on their website is Panaracer sealant which they sell for 2/3 of what Amazon charges.)

The whole idea that I "don't get" is flawed from start to finish.

tomato coupe

The vast majority of riders have one bike with one set of wheels.

sloppy12

Yeah and they use tubes and have no idea who randy hurts is.

GhostRider62

No

GhostRider62

I have never met a one bike rider. Interesting concept.

Trakhak

Elizabeth, Elspeth, Betsy and Bess,
They all went together to seek a bird's nest.
They found a bird's nest with five eggs in,
They each took one, and left four in.

indyfabz

You got me wondering when the last time I was one. It was probably 1992. I had a road bike and bought a MTB for mostly riding around town.

ThermionicScott 

I was like that before I found BikeForums. A cheap MTB and a road bike from craigslist, didn't know I needed anything more!

Seattle Forrest

I prefer having one bike.

GhostRider62

Probably 1979 for me but I almost never sell a bike. I can only remember selling one frame in my life although have destroyed a few. I would be surprised if anyone shelling out 100 bucks a tire for Herses or expensive tubeless tires would only have one bike or anyone thinking of latex tubes and sealant probably has several bikes.

phrantic09

I am, and almost always have been

Polaris OBark

I'm listening to this podcast: https://cyclingtips.com/2022/03/nerd...ure-not-alone/

Saying this is a mess seems like a vast under-statement.

robbyville

I’m a one bike rider and have been for many years, probably 2005 or so. Up until about 6 years ago though I had an extra set of wheels that were not tubeless. Sold those and for the last 6 years my extra wheels have been set up tubeless.

I guess I can’t say I’m one bike anymore though. About a year ago a friend sent me back my original DeRosa SLX that I built up in 1992 and sent to her in 2002. I’ve built it up again with some circa 1992 chorus group and my extra wheels set up tubeless are on there too! I should add, I only ride this one day a month about 5 mths per year when the club does our monthly vintage rides (about 40miles), the only reason I used these wheels is because I didn’t want to buy era correct ones and spend the money, not because I was so set on tubeless for a bike only used once per month.

here’s a pic of the bike and the spacers I got to convert the modern cassette to an 8 speed, shifts and rides like a dream!

GhostRider62

Does the Bon Jon or Stampede Pass fit?

robbyville

not sure what that is?

GhostRider62

The topic of this thread.

chaadster

robbyville

Oh gotcha, sorry. I was simply responding to the above post regarding how there seem to be either no, or very few one bike owners that rode tubeless regularly

smashndash

I've used orange seal in tubes. It's surprisingly effective for small thorns, but obviously not as good as tubeless setup.

latex tubes are a non-starter for most people IMO. I've considered them for a while, but modern rims/tires are just too tight for me to fit them without levers (yes, yes I know that with the right "technique" and gorilla strength, you don't need levers). If you use levers, there's a decent chance you're gonna slice the tube. Or that it's gonna get stuck under the bead. Both will result in a blown $15 tube.

but I'd love to hear if there are any people here who have had experience with latex tubes. I'm looking to try them while I still have a stockpile of tubed tires.

I'm also hesitant because I have rim brakes and I've heard that braking can cook latex tubes.