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Old 05-28-21, 11:56 AM
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Now you're ready to loosen the pinch bolt on the intermediate steering shaft for a 2001-2005 Chevrolet Monte Carlo (and many, many other GM vehicles from that era).
Yeah, if it's a 12 point.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
Somewhere nearby, some poor schmo is going through his tool box, his junk drawer, every place he can think of for his 11mm wrench, and wondering whether he'll round off the nut with the 12.
If he's a smart schmo, he'll go old school, and dig out the 7/16.
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Originally Posted by ls01
Those cool looking carbon firber wheels are also known as "Death Stars" due to thier reputation for catastrophic unscheduled disassembly.
I witnessed it happen in crits back in the day. They really are the true carbon assplosion.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
After seeing somebody's thread on a Saeco Cannondale from the late 90s, I remembered just how much I wanted one of those BITD. I did a quick search of Craigs List, and there's one just 5 miles away, for $400. Looks like it's got all the bits, too, right down to the yellow Flite saddle. Including the Spinergy Rev-X wheels, those cool-looking CF ones with the 4 pairs of bladed spokes. "Hmmmmm..... I wonder if those things are safe?" I thought.

So I looked it up online. "Oh," I thought, "Not so much." I mean, apparently I'm sitting AT the weight limit they had WHEN NEW, 23 years ago.

Hard pass.
Wise choice for those wheels. Being near someone on those wheels always made me nervous.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
After seeing somebody's thread on a Saeco Cannondale from the late 90s, I remembered just how much I wanted one of those BITD. I did a quick search of Craigs List, and there's one just 5 miles away, for $400. Looks like it's got all the bits, too, right down to the yellow Flite saddle. Including the Spinergy Rev-X wheels, those cool-looking CF ones with the 4 pairs of bladed spokes. "Hmmmmm..... I wonder if those things are safe?" I thought.

So I looked it up online. "Oh," I thought, "Not so much." I mean, apparently I'm sitting AT the weight limit they had WHEN NEW, 23 years ago.

Hard pass.
I bought mine as a frameset so I put Open Pro wheels on it. Good bike but quite stiff. Here, we are at the top of Rock Store climb, or "The Snake", as m/c riders call it.
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Originally Posted by Eric F
Wise choice for those wheels. Being near someone on those wheels always made me nervous.
Right. I'd have to price in a new wheelset, which would bring the total to >600. Throw in the requisite new cables and cabling, bar tape, tires, brake pads, you're talking close to $800 for a $400 bike.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
Right. I'd have to price in a new wheelset, which would bring the total to >600. Throw in the requisite new cables and cabling, bar tape, tires, brake pads, you're talking close to $800 for a $400 bike.
Yep. It only makes sense if you want that Saeco frame $800 bad enough.
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Originally Posted by big john
I bought mine as a frameset so I put Open Pro wheels on it. Good bike but quite stiff. Here, we are at the top of Rock Store climb, or "The Snake", as m/c riders call it.
That explains the 'Thudbuster' seatpost someone put on this one. So I'd have to get a new seatpost, preferably crabon, so there's another chunk of change.

I did notice a HUGE improvement in my Cannondale 3.0 switching to 25s and running them at 90/95. I feel like I can still read the printing on manhole covers with my ass, but small bumps no longer toss me out of the saddle.
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Keep talking, guys. It's almost out of my system.
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Originally Posted by Eric F
Yep. It only makes sense if you want that Saeco frame $800 bad enough.
See above. It's approaching $1000.

And I don't want it that much.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
See above. It's approaching $1000.

And I don't want it that much.
You're to the point of nearly tripling the initial investment (which is probably realistic). You've gotta REALLY want it to go that deep. I suppose you could recoup a small amount by selling those blender-blade wheels to someone dumb enough to buy them.
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Originally Posted by Eric F
You're to the point of nearly tripling the initial investment (which is probably realistic). You've gotta REALLY want it to go that deep. I suppose you could recoup a small amount by selling those blender-blade wheels to someone dumb enough to buy them.
No, I don't want it that much. Not even close. If it were the same price with a wheelset I would actually be willing to ride, MAYBE, but probably not. It doesn't fill any holes in my collection, if you know what I mean.

Also, I don't think I could bring myself to sell a set of wheels I'd be afraid to ride on.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
See above. It's approaching $1000.

And I don't want it that much.
I think I got mine in 2001. There were only 3 size 63 frames in bike shops throughout L.A. There was a black one, a stars and stripes one, and the Saeco red one I bought for $600.
I did an organized ride and there was a guy on a star and stripes CAAD and he would pull a wheelie every time there was a camera nearby.

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Looks like I underestimated the cost of a Dura Ace-hubbed wheelset. They're all $300 and up on Ebay. And that doesn't include shipping
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
We do need rain, though.
It's raining.
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Originally Posted by big john
I think I got mine in 2001. There were only 3 size 63 frames in bike shops throughout L.A. There was a black one, a stars and stripes one, and the Saeco red one I bought for $600.
I did an organized ride and there was a guy on a star and stripes CAAD and he would pull a wheelie every time there was a camera nearby.
What a showoff!
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
It's raining.
No it's not.
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It will never rain again.



Seems that way anyways
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No it's not.
About to hit Zacharytown.

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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
About to hit Zacharytown.

That looks exciting. Possibly too exciting. Then again it probably doesn't catch fire every year.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
I came close to eating a few on today's ride. I've found they leave an ugly smudge on my tight 'n' stretchies when I hit them too. I also cannot express how disturbing the growing pile of nymph shells, corpses, body parts, and living bugs, at the bottom of my basement stairway is. We are filling trash bags with them.
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I came close to eating a few on today's ride. I've found they leave an ugly smudge on my tight 'n' stretchies when I hit them too. I also cannot express how disturbing the growing pile of nymph shells, corpses, body parts, and living bugs, at the bottom of my basement stairway is. We are filling trash bags with them.
I remember an X year sometime in the 1970s, visiting the Battlefield at Gettysburg, and finding Little Round Top littered with cicada corpses. It would have been creepy, if I were creeped out by that sort of thing.
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That looks exciting. Possibly too exciting. Then again it probably doesn't catch fire every year.
Correct. This was the only fire of consequence in the last 30+ years.

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I came close to eating a few on today's ride.
YOLO.

There aren't any near the Velo Vol Estates. But, where I went Tuesday for my swimming activity, they're buzzing all over the trees. It's madness.
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Originally Posted by big john
I think I got mine in 2001. There were only 3 size 63 frames in bike shops throughout L.A. There was a black one, a stars and stripes one, and the Saeco red one I bought for $600.
I did an organized ride and there was a guy on a star and stripes CAAD and he would pull a wheelie every time there was a camera nearby.
Nice bike, but the bar tape has got to go. I know you gonna say it matches his kit, paint job, helmet shoes etc.... hope he cut the mullet by now.
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Nice bike, but the bar tape has got to go. I know you gonna say it matches his kit, paint job, helmet shoes etc.... hope he cut the mullet by now.
Hey, he's got a whole "look" going on. I don't know the status of his hair, I don't know him. We just talked bikes that day.
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