e-mtb bikers - most egregious and self-entitled?
#26
Senior Member
Guess I've never seen this out in Will County but I haven't been down to the Joliet canal paths since 2019, nor have I been up to the Prairie Path. Last time I looked though, Cook County Forest Preserve still limited ebikes to 16 mph capability, with fine/forfeit listed as penalty. I ride ebikes by the way, but only ride the small ones on bike paths,
These paths are one of the few great things about living in northern Illinois, I hope they don't turn into a mess.
#27
Veteran, Pacifist
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Seattle area
Posts: 13,327
Bikes: Bikes??? Thought this was social media?!?
Mentioned: 284 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3897 Post(s)
Liked 4,829 Times
in
2,228 Posts
In many mountainous areas, hiking trails that were opened for bicycles many years have been trashed in the last couple.. E-mtbs have added to the problem faster than those who maintain the trails can respond. If you ride singletrack trails, please get off the bike and help maintain the trails you ride by joining an organized group of experienced trail builders.
- From a former USFS wilderness ranger
- From a former USFS wilderness ranger
__________________
Vintage, modern, e-road. It is a big cycling universe.
Vintage, modern, e-road. It is a big cycling universe.
Last edited by Wildwood; 05-18-21 at 10:58 AM.
Likes For Wildwood:
#28
Senior Member
Thread Starter
In many mountainous areas, hiking trails that were opened for bicycles many years have been trashed in the last couple.. E-mtbs have added to the problem faster than those who maintain the trails can respond. If you ride singletrack trails, please get off the bike and help maintain the trails you ride by joining an organized group of experienced trail builders.
- From a former USFS wilderness ranger
- From a former USFS wilderness ranger
Likes For aclinjury:
#29
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Hacienda Hgts
Posts: 2,102
Bikes: 1999 Schwinn Peloton Ultegra 10, Kestrel RT-1000 Ultegra, Trek Marlin 6 Deore 29'er
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 822 Post(s)
Liked 1,955 Times
in
941 Posts
The regional park I live near was once a vital scenic hiking area but over decades of off designated trail use by hikers and MTB's, it was destroyed. Restoration is currently going on, but a lot of the single track erosion will permanently damage the hills. Sad really.
#30
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Left Coast, Canada
Posts: 5,126
Mentioned: 24 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2236 Post(s)
Liked 1,314 Times
in
707 Posts
My view is, if it doesn't have pedals or is controlled independently by a throttle, it's more moped/motorbike than bicycle. If it's pedal assist it's an e bike.
I really don't see a difference using e bike or manual on access trails up to runs if they can handle the use. On more fragile downhill trails, that are designated manual only, I think there should be a manual disconnect for the e motor (not just an off/on switch) to allow them to be used as manual bikes.
Get caught on a non ebike trail with the motor connected, get a fine. Period. Industry and lawmakers/stakeholders could work out what that disconnect looks like. All the issues with power mods won't matter if the motor is disconnected.
Takes all the guessing away yet allows e bike use on trails where it is applicable.
In my region there are many places where a fire road or jeep trail goes from the bottom to top of runs. Groups often ferry bikes up in trucks. Solo riders can't do this and have to pedal. I see no difference between pedaling an e assist bike and riding up in a truck. At the top, turn off the motor or disconnect and everyone is riding manual downhill.
I really don't see a difference using e bike or manual on access trails up to runs if they can handle the use. On more fragile downhill trails, that are designated manual only, I think there should be a manual disconnect for the e motor (not just an off/on switch) to allow them to be used as manual bikes.
Get caught on a non ebike trail with the motor connected, get a fine. Period. Industry and lawmakers/stakeholders could work out what that disconnect looks like. All the issues with power mods won't matter if the motor is disconnected.
Takes all the guessing away yet allows e bike use on trails where it is applicable.
In my region there are many places where a fire road or jeep trail goes from the bottom to top of runs. Groups often ferry bikes up in trucks. Solo riders can't do this and have to pedal. I see no difference between pedaling an e assist bike and riding up in a truck. At the top, turn off the motor or disconnect and everyone is riding manual downhill.
Last edited by Happy Feet; 05-18-21 at 11:49 AM.