1987 Albert Eisentraut
09-28-21, 11:02 AM
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1987 Albert Eisentraut
I was pretty stoked to pick this up local craigslist ad, no picture, but he had me with the description, original owner, phil wood hubs, upgraded record brakes, and extra aero wheel set. better yet it was a few miles from my house. the monostay with the record brake looks so cool, at least to me
09-28-21, 11:19 AM
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Wow!
09-28-21, 11:41 AM
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That’s a beauty.
Looks to be a quick handling bike.
Delta brakes have a reputation for being less than superior for stopping power. Mine are acceptable, but you might want to put new pads on them.
Looks to be a quick handling bike.
Delta brakes have a reputation for being less than superior for stopping power. Mine are acceptable, but you might want to put new pads on them.
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09-28-21, 12:29 PM
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You do want to put new KoolStop salmon pads on your Delta brakes. My older Campag. sidepulls were downright scary with lesser pads, including Shimanos.
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09-28-21, 01:47 PM
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If its getting late, and ya' can't find a date, try a Delta.
09-28-21, 02:21 PM
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Never seen and couldn't find another Eisentraut with that wishbone/binder bolt.
That was a Andy Newlands/Strawberry thing.
Here's one that I have.
Never seen and couldn't find another Eisentraut with that wishbone/binder bolt.
That was a Andy Newlands/Strawberry thing.
Here's one that I have.
09-28-21, 02:24 PM
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09-28-21, 03:21 PM
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Very nice!
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@konakaiNever seen and couldn't find another Eisentraut with that wishbone/binder bolt.
That was a Andy Newlands/Strawberry thing.
That was a Andy Newlands/Strawberry thing.
I also heard a story about the wishbone seat stays. I don't remember the exact details, and I have no idea if there's any truth to it, but it had something to do with it being an accidental invention brought about by necessity, like he was trying to solve some problem and couldn't figure it out how to do it with traditional seat stays so he did this and people liked it. Does that sound familiar?
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09-28-21, 03:35 PM
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That is really cool. Just FYI, the brakes aren’t necessarily an “upgrade” as it looks like the whole group is C Record and the Deltas were stock with that. You can maybe say the whole group is an upgrade.
repechage , my wife was in a different sorority and she’s thrown that line at me, with a little modification, before!
repechage , my wife was in a different sorority and she’s thrown that line at me, with a little modification, before!
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09-28-21, 04:12 PM
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09-28-21, 04:17 PM
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Did they work together somewhere? I know Eisentraut is kind of like the godfather of American framebuilders, so I could be mixing Newlands up with someone else, but I thought I read something about a connection between them once.
I also heard a story about the wishbone seat stays. I don't remember the exact details, and I have no idea if there's any truth to it, but it had something to do with it being an accidental invention brought about by necessity, like he was trying to solve some problem and couldn't figure it out how to do it with traditional seat stays so he did this and people liked it. Does that sound familiar?
I also heard a story about the wishbone seat stays. I don't remember the exact details, and I have no idea if there's any truth to it, but it had something to do with it being an accidental invention brought about by necessity, like he was trying to solve some problem and couldn't figure it out how to do it with traditional seat stays so he did this and people liked it. Does that sound familiar?
Not sure about the wishbone but have heard that Andy's version was his own design as well as the binder bolt.
I think this may be a Strawberry, redone as a Traut.
09-28-21, 04:19 PM
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09-28-21, 04:37 PM
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Yes. That number says it's the 2nd frame made in February 1988. (Bruce Gordan used the same system, possibly with a "G" in front of the digits.)
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09-28-21, 04:39 PM
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Retro Bike Restorations (and other cycling musings): Eisentraut
https://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=143070
Edit: Oops. Those just have the monostay thing, not the binder bolt.
https://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=143070
Edit: Oops. Those just have the monostay thing, not the binder bolt.
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Retro Bike Restorations (and other cycling musings): Eisentraut
https://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=143070
Edit: Oops. Those just have the monostay thing, not the binder bolt.
https://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=143070
Edit: Oops. Those just have the monostay thing, not the binder bolt.
Yep, but that is a unicrown style rear, Andy's are a cast crown affair of his own design I believe.
If the subject bike is a Traut, maybe he sourced the crown and binder from Andy.
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09-28-21, 07:22 PM
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I am pretty sure they did not work together, as far as I know Merz, Newlands and DiNucci all started on their own and that DiNucci worked for both of the other two.
Not sure about the wishbone but have heard that Andy's version was his own design as well as the binder bolt.
I think this may be a Strawberry, redone as a Traut.
Not sure about the wishbone but have heard that Andy's version was his own design as well as the binder bolt.
I think this may be a Strawberry, redone as a Traut.
09-28-21, 08:59 PM
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I really don't know alot about eisentrats but I would bet dollars to doughnuts this is an original legit eisentraut. not because I own it....I bought this from the original owner who had it built for him.... I know sellers will tell you anything and everything...but again dollars to doughnuts
I will reach out to Andy and see what he says but would really like a pic of the s/n to use too.
09-28-21, 09:29 PM
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Agreed on the seller part but the binder is a pretty big outlier. I've done a pretty deep basic dive and cannot find any Eisentraut with this wishbone crown or binder. And while I am no Traut expert either, I do know quite a bit about Strawberry's, yours is a dead ringer for my black one in both regards.
I will reach out to Andy and see what he says but would really like a pic of the s/n to use too.
I will reach out to Andy and see what he says but would really like a pic of the s/n to use too.
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