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Old 09-17-21, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
I haven't had anything break/need replaced on the trumpet. Some of the finish doesn't look great, though. Sad.
Isn't it about time to re-cork the spit valve?
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When it comes to cars, many men have this idea that knowing about cars is some macho thing, a male birthright, or something, when in reality they don't know their ass from third base.
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
That's called patina.
Only when you're trying to either sell it, or convince yourself it doesn't look old and worn out. e.g. "I love the patina on this watch dial that I can't read!"
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Originally Posted by big john
Yes, and they listen. When I was younger and cars were just mechanical things the problem with male customers was worse. I always wondered, if they know what's wrong with it then why are they bringing it to me?
It's harder for them to argue about an electric car but they still do. I had a guy tell me there are just a bunch of 12 volt batteries in the bottom of an e-car. Another told me his e-car didn't have a cooling system, why would batteries need coolant? Or a radiator?
One Volt customer was stuck on the miles per charge thing. "it's false advertising to say the range is 50 miles". It's an estimate depending on many things. "Why does it show a different number each time I charge it". The number is generated by an algorithm based on the way you've been driving. He thought it meant it was charged to a different level each time and I tried to explain it as patiently as I could but he was very agitated. Finally a salesman took him off my hands.

God forbid he read the owner's manual.
That's just crazy talk.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Periodic reminder:

That must mean that it's not contagious.

Phew.
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
That's called patina.
I tell my friends the same thing when they say my bike is dirty.
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Originally Posted by datlas
I tell my friends the same thing when they say my bike is dirty.
I always say "too busy riding it, no time for washing it."

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Originally Posted by genejockey
The thing about being a Scientist, especially a biologist working in BioPharma, is that you have to understand how little you understand, and you have to simultaneously need to know how it works and accept that you never really will, beyond a small corner of it.
At some point I realized that people who don't know about something tend to oversimplify it in their mind. This still amazes me.
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
You just plug them in for a while and then go. Who cares about all that other stuff.

Just don't drive it till it runs out of charge! Hard to get back home when you do that.
It was a Volt so he had the engine as a back-up if he depleted the battery. Funny thing was, he liked the car and wasn't trying for a buy back. He just wanted to argue about how it worked. Or maybe he was just dense.
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Originally Posted by big john
At some point I realized that people who don't know about something tend to oversimplify it in their mind. This still amazes me.
"It's just, like, 1000 D-cell batteries under the seats, right?"
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Originally Posted by big john
It was a Volt so he had the engine as a back-up if he depleted the battery. Funny thing was, he liked the car and wasn't trying for a buy back. He just wanted to argue about how it worked. Or maybe he was just dense.
Not mutually exclusive.
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
I always say "too busy riding it, no time for washing it."

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My problem is, because I rotate through all the bikes, and sweat like nobody's business, it doesn't make sense to wash just one, but washing all eight is a big chore.
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I don't like patina. I like new and shiny.

Stopped at the Trek store after lunch today and was oohing and awing the new bikes with electronic shifting. They even had a Madone and Emonda in my size. But, don't need a new bike. The old one is just a year old. Now, however, I'll start to see patina on it.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
"it's just, like, 1000 d-cell batteries under the seats, right?"
10,000.
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Originally Posted by big john
It was a Volt so he had the engine as a back-up if he depleted the battery. Funny thing was, he liked the car and wasn't trying for a buy back. He just wanted to argue about how it worked. Or maybe he was just dense.
Ran mine down pretty low this week. Wanted to drive it yesterday, but forgot to plug it in the night before. Nope, not gonna test it.
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
I always say "too busy riding it, no time for washing it."

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Since I started waxing my chains, I now feel like washing the bike is a purely cosmetic thing, so I don't bother with it too often. I think that I've washed it twice this year... maybe three times.
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At some point I realized that people who don't know about something tend to oversimplify it in their mind. This still amazes me.
"I don't get why people say the Tour de France is hard. You just sit there and move your legs up and down." I don't remember exactly where I heard this said, but the guy was not being sarcastic at all.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
"It's just, like, 1000 D-cell batteries under the seats, right?"
I saw a video about something like that, I'll try to find it.
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"I don't get why people say the Tour de France is hard. You just sit there and move your legs up and down." I don't remember exactly where I heard this said, but the guy was not being sarcastic at all.
Charles Barkley once said "The bike is doing all the work". I'm not kidding.
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Originally Posted by Eric F
"I don't get why people say the Tour de France is hard. You just sit there and move your legs up and down." I don't remember exactly where I heard this said, but the guy was not being sarcastic at all.
Any 4 year old can ride a bike, right?
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
Since I started waxing my chains, I now feel like washing the bike is a purely cosmetic thing, so I don't bother with it too often. I think that I've washed it twice this year... maybe three times.
I don't even wash mine. I just give it a quick wipe about once every 2 or 3 months with some detail spray.
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I don't even wash mine. I just give it a quick wipe about once every 2 or 3 months with some detail spray.
Yeah, mine is a little more dirty than that when I do get around to cleaning it. We're probably talking about once every 2-3k miles and the accumulated crud definitely needs a little more soaking to come off. Even so, it's just a bucket of sudsy water, a sponge and 10-15 minutes. Coming from the matte finish of my old Domane, it's so, so, so much easier to clean.
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Originally Posted by big john
I had a guy tell me there are just a bunch of 12 volt batteries in the bottom of an e-car.
It's not?
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
Yeah, mine is a little more dirty than that when I do get around to cleaning it. We're probably talking about once every 2-3k miles and the accumulated crud definitely needs a little more soaking to come off. Even so, it's just a bucket of sudsy water, a sponge and 10-15 minutes. Coming from the matte finish of my old Domane, it's so, so, so much easier to clean.
I agree on the matte finish - I'd much prefer gloss. That's why I've stayed as far away as I can from matte finished cars when they were the rage.

One difference between us in addition to you riding more than I do is that I rarely ride when it's wet. Most of our summer and fall is dry and when it does rain it dries up very quickly. So, the bike rarely gets wet. Same is true in the spring since our spring rains typically run most if not all of the day, so rain usually means indoor riding.
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