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Somehow getting cable-stop away from the frame

Old 08-16-22, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by SurferRosa
It's not a Cinelli Super Corsa.



You can decide. Here are three of them:

https://www.bikeforums.net/22226958-post2979.html

The other two are in similar condition. I've refurbished about 70 that look/operate the same. Never bought a nos fd.
They're nice. Like I said, even thought I've got some used parts on my bike, like yours, you'd never know.
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Old 09-15-22, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by SurferRosa
There's a ton of them. Here's a cheap one:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/30459382250...Bk9SR6Sg-MnUYA
bought that one you recommended and installed it.... 😁 i pretty much "destroyed" the old front derailer rather than break the chain again, even though i have the tool. i should ask why Shimano designs derailers like that, but save that one for another post.

for the record, i still like my idea (yes i am stubborn) i might send the old parts to a machine-shop guy and let him come up with a cable stop that is "offset" for Shimano.

and next up, to remove a pedal and take it into an REI store, see about clip-in shoes/pedals, and hopefully without having to redo the pedal threads.

EDIT: bought the one that SurferRosa found, not necessarily recommending that specific one. but it does seem to work. still, it seems a bit odd that the only derailleurs that work are used and i cannot somehow get a new Shimano to work for me. it will be interesting to see if the machine shop guy has any ideas.

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Old 09-15-22, 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by edwardsmarkf
bought that one you recommended and installed it. 😁
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Old 09-16-22, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by edwardsmarkf
and next up, to remove a pedal and take it into an REI store, see about clip-in shoes/pedals, and hopefully without having to redo the pedal threads.
You shouldn't have to redo the threads. Assuming you remove the pedal correctly.
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Old 09-16-22, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by smd4
You shouldn't have to redo the threads. Assuming you remove the pedal correctly.
somebody warned me it might not be that easy on an old Peugeot bicycle. i do remember being told a long time ago that European bicycle manufacturers were extremely nationalistic on their thread sizes.
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Old 09-16-22, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by SurferRosa
Okay, that's definitely the wrong cable guide for your seat tube and the wrong front derailleur as well.
I'm not really a bike mechanic, but that looks like something somebody kludged together until it was "good enough."
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Old 09-18-22, 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by edwardsmarkf
somebody warned me it might not be that easy on an old Peugeot bicycle. i do remember being told a long time ago that European bicycle manufacturers were extremely nationalistic on their thread sizes.
Older French bikes may have metric pedal thread, but starting around 1980, English/ISO thread was used. Often, pedal thread spec is marked on the crank arm. If you can't find metric thread pedals, the arms can be re-tapped to English/ISO thread.
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Originally Posted by JohnDThompson
Older French bikes may have metric pedal thread, but starting around 1980, English/ISO thread was used. Often, pedal thread spec is marked on the crank arm. If you can't find metric thread pedals, the arms can be re-tapped to English/ISO thread.
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Old 09-18-22, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnDThompson
Older French bikes may have metric pedal thread, but starting around 1980, English/ISO thread was used. Often, pedal thread spec is marked on the crank arm. If you can't find metric thread pedals, the arms can be re-tapped to English/ISO thread.
apparently, that was 1978 or earlier! i just tried screwing in a new mountain-bike LEFT pedal and the threads match.
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Old 09-21-22, 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by edwardsmarkf
thank you so much surferRosa - i take it there is no way to find a new one? they are all used on eBay?
The front derailleurs pictured on that link will last forever as the are all metal. No real risk to buying used. I had one go for 40+ years. The key to smoothness and longevity is in a previous post about using a long piece of housing for a gentle curve.

The real hunt is if it for the FDs that fit the slightly smaller diameter French tubing used on vintage bikes like Peugeots and Gitanes.
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Old 09-21-22, 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Bill in VA
The real hunt is if it for the FDs that fit the slightly smaller diameter French tubing.


My first Motobécane had a first gen Suntour Cyclone fd with an original Suntour plastic shim. Pretty cool, but a tiny piece of inner tube can also work.
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Old 09-22-22, 07:25 AM
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Sorry, I didn't read ALL of the replies, but did anyone suggest just moving the housing stop DOWN on the seat tube a bit? It would mean shortening the housing, but moving the stop further away from the derailleur would decrease the angle for the cable.
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Old 09-22-22, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by BlazingPedals
did anyone suggest just moving the housing stop down?
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