Carbonfiberboy 

An hour of watching a video about something is maybe more time than most of us are willing to give to any one subject. So watch it 10' a day.

Amen to the doctor! I've done a lot of research on these topics when I could have saved a lot of time and just listened to this lecture a few times. "Compression of morbidity" has been my goal. When I heard that phrase a few years ago, I realized that was a 3 word expression of what I've been working on ever since I started riding again at 50. Why did I start riding again? Because I stumbled one day on my way to the mailbox. I used to frigging climb in Yosemite. My self-image is not of a person who stumbles. So I bought a cheap used bike and hit the gym, which I hadn't done since I was in the Army in my early 20s. I'd let career come between me and my health. Every day at 5:00 became ME time. 27 years later, I'm still at it, not dead yet.

wolfchild

You don't need to keep track of any data, you don't need to compare yourself to others, you don't need to follow some complicated and rigidly structured training routine....All you need is two days per week and a few basic exercises that work your full body...Keep it simple.

DarKris

I already do things similar to that. What I wanted to see and/or gauge was whether that would be sufficient or would I have to hit the gym if I wanted adequate resistance exercises. The consensus seems to be “no” it’s not adequate enough.

Wanting to build muscle and strength overall. For bike-related reasons I want to be able to have better control when doing more technical riding (not sure if that would fall more under strength or endurance, or both).

That’s what I’m looking for: an exercise or more specifically, an activity that will provide adequate full body strength and resistance exercise that I can look forward to doing. Someone had brought up rowing and as much as I would enjoy doing that I’m afraid I don’t necessarily have the means to pick that up at the moment

Seattle Forrest

​​​​​​Look up "convict conditioning." People get ripped in prison without the user of a gym. Body weight exercises are a great start, you can overload with reps. If you decide you need more, address it down the line.

Seattle Forrest

Having a good VO2max predicts how long a person will live. Having good grip strength predicts their quality of life in old age. Those two things correlate with a lot more about overall health.

Doing overhead presses means you'll be able to get your luggage in the overhead compartment when you're 70.

Doing squats means you'll be able to get off the toilet independently in your old age. When you can't do that anymore you live in a home and a nurse helps you. 😳 🥺

koala logs

Ofc it's cycling! Grow, strong, big beach muscles with nothing but cycling, if you know how

I manage to have big strong glutes and normally muscled arms this way, without hitting the gym ever, just riding the bike, pedaling in a specific way for short periods.

wolfchild

It's not about beach muscles and it's not about looking like a bodybuilder. You completely missing the point and purpose of strength training...Your special and unique pedaling techniques which you're talking about is just red flags which tell me that you're trolling.

GhostRider62

29 watt increase in MAP for just 2x per week for 12 weeks? I'm in. Need to find a good gym

I never worked out in my life, figuring the sports specific motion would be ruined with weight training. I played a lot of sports in my life. I've read enough studies this morning to know, I was totally wrong. And I have to laugh at myself lusting for that 29 watts.

Edit: Sorry all the quotes and references got lost. I was logged out and then they are gone. I had some pretty decent references, but probably unnecessarily singing to the choir

koala logs

I think we have different idea of what "beach body" looks like.

I did write in my post you quoted, it should only be done for short period. It would equate to a low number of reps (less than 100 pedals strokes with use of high gear resulting to very low cadence). I also gave a warning in my earlier post to back it off or stop if you feel the slightest pain in the back.

rumrunn6

he broke his ankle filming that movie. that complex was a fun tour w/ the family

work4bike

The problem with this issue is that we got people of all ages chiming in (and I have no idea of the age range of the OP). Our differences in ages makes a very big difference in this subject of resistance training.

I'm 57 and have known of the importance of strength training for quite some time; however, I think I got a little complacent, which came to light after the pandemic when I started lifting heavy again. I loss a lot of strength, I could still ride a bike, but I noticed the weakness creeping in, in other aspects of my life. There is a major physiological difference between doing lightweights at high reps vs lifting heavy and I don't think younger guys get it as much, because they are not feeling the effects of gravity nearly as much as us older guys. Gravity will win eventually, but it's all about lasting as long as possible before someone has to help you off the toilet. I'll be ready to die the day someone needs to help me off the toilet.

I am an endurance person, always doing long rides, runs and hiking trips, but having a high cardio capacity is only half the equation, as you age you need to work harder to maintain balance and keep your strength. Heavy weights is what's needed for this, light weights at high reps only burns you out. It actually feels like I'm in recovery mode when I do my heavy days, because I do far fewer reps, I'm just struggling more to lift the weight, but then it's over.

There are tons of examples of older people improving their lives thru heavy weight training. Here's just one more example...don't worry it's only a 4-minute video

wolfchild

Age is irrelevant...Everybody will benefit from weight training it doesn't matter if they're young or old....The amount of weight and reps are also irrelevant...Light weigh higher reps are just as beneficial as heavier weight and lower reps and it's best to use both.. Fitness and health isn't about big numbers in the gym.

work4bike

I fully understand that everyone will benefit from weight training, my only point was that it's not as obvious to most young people who are feeling immortal. As I look at countless examples of the outstanding benefits seniors gain from weight training, I can't help to wonder how they'd look if they'd started the weight training much earlier in life.

As I said in my post, I'm an endurance-oriented person, so I know the benefits of doing high reps with light weights. However, it does seem that older lifters benefit more from lifting heavy as opposed to high reps, that's NOT to say they should never do high reps. I've noticed that in my lifting, but more importantly others have noticed this.

In this short 9-minute video Dr Sullivan addresses this

work4bike

This video actually addresses weight training for cyclists, but it also specifically addresses the issue of using the bike as resistance training, in addition to other aspects of weight training WRT cycling performance.

Personally, I think beginners can use the bike as resistance training, but as we become more efficient/proficient, it's really not an option. After millions of revolutions under my feet, I know it won't help me.

This is an 18-minute video, but if you go to the 16:20-minute point in the timeline that's where he talks about using a bike for strength training. And this is not just this guy's opinion, he references many scientific studies.