VegasJen

I know these are older bikes, but I looked at a Y-Foil 77 today that was literally like new. Ultegra hardware all around. The guy had upgraded to Rolf wheels and the tires still had casting flash on them. As far as the frame, there was one chip in the paint. That's all I found on this bike that's almost 25 years old. I mean seriously, if it weren't for that one chip, this thing could be sold as new. Guy is asking $1200. I wouldn't give that much for it even if I could afford to, but I might consider $800-900. Don't know if he would go that low though.

Pretty radical design, very aggressive angle. Almost seems like what I imagine a triathlon bike to feel like. This frame is maybe a little tall for me but the hip/leg geometry was fine when we lowered the seat a bit. There was still about 2 inches of down travel on the seat tube but it was pretty good right where we stopped. The thing I noticed was how low the bars were, even after dropping the seat. He did have them set at a pretty aggressive angle, but even rotating them up a bit, they're still pretty low.

I've been shopping for triathlon bikes a lot lately, and I know this isn't one, but it might be a very good compromise with some clamp on aero bars. Neat looking bike.
Pic for those that don't know what I'm talking about.

znomit

Hot

Koyote

If you think that handlebar is low, wait ‘til you try a real time trial bike. I run more drop on my road bike, and I’m an old man.

Steve B.

Heavy. Lot of carbon used to maintain the shape without breaking. It was a mostly gimmicky look, IMO.

VegasJen

I'll grant you it is a peculiar, "gimmicky" look. But heavy it ain't. I would guess it's 3-4 pounds lighter than my CF Roubiax, so easily under 20 pounds.

bampilot06

I would buy one.

Iride01 

Same reason a lot of other 20th century bicycles aren't sold as mainstream bikes.

Atlas Shrugged

It is like a car collector buying an AMC Pacer. They buy them but not for the driving experience.

merlinextraligh

the reason the bike looks gimmicky is because the UCI outlawed it. There was lots of experimentation with frame design in that era until the UCI mandated that bikes had to be traditional diamond frame. That relegated bikes like this to the triathlon market.

Without UCI rules mandating diamond frames, some of the “gimmicks” might have become mainstream. Heck we might all be riding recumbents had they not been banned years before that

cxwrench

Doubtful. And bolting tri bars on a road bike doesn't turn it into a tri bike.

VegasJen

You can doubt as much as you like. Have you put hands on one? I can tell you with a high degree of certainty it's lighter than my Roubiax, and I've weighed it to 22lbs.
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tyrion

The Pacer wasn't designed for performance driving, it was for attracting the babes.

Iride01 

Your Roubaix must be from the previous century too if it weighs 22 lbs. Though I will agree with you that the Trek Y-Foil is probably lighter. CF back then was all about weight and stiffening the places in the frame that steel, aluminum and other stuff couldn't stiffen and still be light. Not so much for how well it could handle abuse.

Partly the reason it got a bad rep that is still today widely believed.

Iride01 

I wish I'd known that when I got my Gremlin back circa the mid 70's.

bampilot06

The last crit I was in, a guy was racing on one. It was solid gold and looked amazing. Instant bike envy. I didn’t get a chance to talk to him about it, and I wouldn’t shell out thousands of dollars for one if the price was im right, it would be a fun build.

indyfabz

No.

bampilot06

No imagination.

tempocyclist

Probably rides like garbage compared to any modern bike, but I would buy one in a heartbeat if I could find a good one!!! 😍

VegasJen

In what way would you expect it to ride like "garbage"? I rode it very briefly the other day and I was surprised at how compliant it was. Granted, it was just around a very smooth parking lot, but I think the way the seat stem is kind of cantilevered, it absorbs a lot of harshness. Of course, this bike is only slightly older than anything I'm currently on anyway, so there's that.

seypat

You rode it around a parking lot? Wait a minute. Have you already purchased it and this is one of those "Did I get a good deal" threads in disguise?"

Ubie

$1200 is fairly cheap in the current market. I've never ridden one, but have been lusting after one (blue, please) for over 20 years.

N2deep

Wow, Never thought I would have to avert my eyes so not to implant that picture in my head, like seeing a plump goddess in a string bikini, but thats the ugliest bike ever..

seypat

+1. Those wheels aren't helping.

seypat

Don't forget about these. There could be one in your area. You could pick this one up and sample the local craft brewery. I go through there about once a week.

https://richmond.craigslist.org/bik/...486102580.html

https://www.dragonrunbrewing.com/

big john

The frame is over 4 pounds. Many modern cf frames are under 2 pounds.