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Old 11-18-08, 01:23 PM
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bike for friend with little cash

my buddy wants to start riding with me but has very low funds( almost nonexistent). he is a very small rider he weighs like 110 lbs soaking wet. he is like 5'3". i found this bike used by a younger rider for 50$ but i do not know or have i ever heard of this brand (planet earth) the pic is kinda fuzzy it does have a three piece crank and a clamp style head set not a threaded headset. so i was thinking about picking it up for him for x-mas. i have enough spare parts laying around to do some upgrades but pls let me know if this bike would be safe for a cross-country application?

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PS. sorry about the low quality of the pic it is how it was posted.
pps. i already posted this in the mechanic section but i thought twice and figured it would be better here
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Old 11-18-08, 02:02 PM
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Ownry fiddy dorah?

it looks ok, but it is tough to tell from the pic quality.

what brand shifters/derrailers? I can't make it out from the pic.
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Old 11-18-08, 03:35 PM
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Id get it and convert to a SS for 30-40 bucks.

Its been my experience that cheap wal-mart derailleurs dont hold up well on trail. He'll probably have more fun too.
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Originally Posted by elf 232
Id get it and convert to a SS for 30-40 bucks.

Its been my experience that cheap wal-mart derailleurs dont hold up well on trail. He'll probably have more fun too.
How about a better idea?He said he had some spare parts around to upgrade with and if he happens not to have one laying around he could pick up a decent derailleur for about that much. How do you figure he'll have more fun? Do you have any clue about what type of terrain they'll be riding? I know if you took a new rider to 95% of the trails around here on a SS they wouldn't be having too much fun.

Note to self......make all bikes SS.
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Forget the bike, just buy him some lacrosse gear. Lacrosse players are awesome.
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Originally Posted by mtnbiker66
How about a better idea?He said he had some spare parts around to upgrade with and if he happens not to have one laying around he could pick up a decent derailleur for about that much. How do you figure he'll have more fun? Do you have any clue about what type of terrain they'll be riding? I know if you took a new rider to 95% of the trails around here on a SS they wouldn't be having too much fun.

Note to self......make all bikes SS.
Dude your just trying to find any way to discredit what i say. I've been riding the SS i got last week and its the best thing that's ever happened to me with bikes.
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Originally Posted by junkyard
Forget the bike, just buy him some lacrosse gear. Lacrosse players are awesome.
your catching on.
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Old 11-18-08, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by elf 232
Dude your just trying to find any way to discredit what i say. I've been riding the SS i got last week and its the best thing that's ever happened to me with bikes.

But is it good for a beginner and what he is using it for? You already had the chance to figure out what your needs are. This guy is just beginning.

I don't think he is trying to discredit anything you are saying, he is suggesting something useful and more to what the OP is asking.
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But is it good for a beginner and what he is using it for? You already had the chance to figure out what your needs are. This guy is just beginning.

I don't think he is trying to discredit anything you are saying............
I really don't have to. Anyone that has kept up with his post knows that he's about a clueless as any kid thats come around in a long time.
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Yah I know but I have to be nice...
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Old 11-18-08, 06:06 PM
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I am quite confident I have far more experience with beginners. Every saturday we have at least one or two beginners on our ride and quite often they find it more trouble working the gears than pedaling.

Just this past week we put a 20ish y.o. begginer who hadnt ever ridden a mtb before and he had no clue how to shift through gears. We switched him out, and put him on a SS and he was doin great.

I think we are beyond the argument, "everyone is different, what works for you, might not work for someone else" but I am actually talking from experience. Look at the friend you want to put on the bike. Is he in strong enough to push that certain SS gear? Then put him on a SS.
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Old 11-18-08, 06:26 PM
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I started "mountain biking" on a single speed bmx bike when I was a kid while saving up for a true mountain bike. It sucked.

Still better than lacrosse.. lacrosse is whack.
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Originally Posted by elf 232
I am quite confident I have far more experience with beginners. Every saturday we have at least one or two beginners on our ride and quite often they find it more trouble working the gears than pedaling.

Just this past week we put a 20ish y.o. begginer who hadnt ever ridden a mtb before and he had no clue how to shift through gears. We switched him out, and put him on a SS and he was doin great.

I think we are beyond the argument, "everyone is different, what works for you, might not work for someone else" but I am actually talking from experience. Look at the friend you want to put on the bike. Is he in strong enough to push that certain SS gear? Then put him on a SS.
One day you might want to have a chat with 66 and maybe he will tell you about the wonderful program that Hambone40 started and that 66 helps with. I will always respect them for doing such awesome things for kids.
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Originally Posted by elf 232
I am quite confident I have far more experience with beginners.
Apparently you missed the multiple photos and posts over the last couple years where 66 was helping run a mountain bike club for beginner kids.

Fewchir serjin is just about right.

edit: damn, sniped by sbw
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Originally Posted by elf 232
I am quite confident I have far more experience with beginners. Every saturday we have at least one or two beginners on our ride and quite often they find it more trouble working the gears than pedaling.

Just this past week we put a 20ish y.o. begginer who hadnt ever ridden a mtb before and he had no clue how to shift through gears. We switched him out, and put him on a SS and he was doin great.

I think we are beyond the argument, "everyone is different, what works for you, might not work for someone else" but I am actually talking from experience. Look at the friend you want to put on the bike. Is he in strong enough to push that certain SS gear? Then put him on a SS.
It depends on the trails in the area. Some of the trails around here are super-technical, a.k.a. you have to be good to do them on a SS. Gears definitely make it easier to ride.
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Originally Posted by Siu Blue Wind
One day you might want to have a chat with 66 and maybe he will tell you about the wonderful program that Hambone40 started and that 66 helps with. I will always respect them for doing such awesome things for kids.
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Apparently you missed the multiple photos and posts over the last couple years where 66 was helping run a mountain bike club for beginner kids.

Fewchir serjin is just about right.

edit: damn, sniped by sbw
Crap....there goes my TGMBG member card and I just popped my shoulder out of socket patting myself on the back.
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Originally Posted by elf 232
Dude your just trying to find any way to discredit what i say.
You're doing a fine job of that sans help.
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Originally Posted by mtnbiker66
Crap....there goes my TGMBG member card and I just popped my shoulder out of socket patting myself on the back.
You need to get Hammy on here tonight so he can represent. And post pics of the program. And the smiles on those kids faces.

And the cool way you pack all of the bikes into that truck and trailer.
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Lots of kids = lots of lunch money.
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Originally Posted by dminor
You're doing a fine job of that sans help.

Just in case.
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Originally Posted by Siu Blue Wind
You need to get Hammy on here tonight so he can represent. And post pics of the program. And the smiles on those kids faces. .
....but that would be a hijack,right?


I'm sure it would....
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Not really a hijack. Because the OP is going to do the exact same thing with his friend. Get him started. And this is the result. Happy faces.
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Old 11-18-08, 07:34 PM
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Coool pics
The last one looks like that green thing in the bottom corner matches with your head in the sig.
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Whatever 66...those kids look like freakin' experts, not beginners. At least they could wax an elf.

To the OP...that bike looks a little big for a person that's 5'3". Just sayin. (I know you said it came from a smaller rider, but it doesn't make it right now does it)

Domeafavor...measure the frame from where the crankset bolts to the bottom bracket all the way up to the top of the seat tube. (das how I roll)

Elf: Shut up, you're a noobdork who needs to know when to shut up. Here's your cue...shut up.
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I'm sorry Elf...that was rude.

Please stop typing this trash though...seriously.
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