Could you tell the difference between these Chinese titaniums and Americans?
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Could you tell the difference between these Chinese titaniums and Americans?
Looks pretty nice. These frames are custom geometry and 1/6th the cost of a non-custom Moot.
I'm not providing any details unless asked. Don't wanna be labeled as a shill.
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12-15-08, 12:39 AM
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https://www.xacd.com.cn/about.htm
https://www.xacd.com.cn/product.asp?rootcl=1
Ordering is done by email. I believe you can also give them a call.
https://www.xacd.com.cn/product.asp?rootcl=1
Ordering is done by email. I believe you can also give them a call.
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Hi guys,
I would like to caution you against using these guys, here are some of our experiences. They made a couple of frames for us in the past. Welding was horribly inconsistent. A couple of frames had derailleur hangers in the wrong location and we had to 'modify' them ourselves. A frame came without the derailleur hanger threaded.... was a b*tch to do. Calls for frames to be fixed (the ones with derailleur hangers in wrong locations), were largely ignored.
Most of the vent holes had really bad staining which I can only conclude to be cutting oil spilling out after backpurging. Pictures to them resulted in "they were fine when they left us" answers..
Some of the frames developed creaking at the seattube/ shim joint and 1 shim eventually separated (although it doesn't really need to be welded in place).
ALL frames had headtubes that were not faced properly.
Any changes you make to the frame drawings BEFORE production resulted in an increase in price. They stiff you for shipping fees and bank charges... oh yeah and funny how the double butted and straight gauge frames came in the same weight but cost more.
Of course, on the positive side, compared to an american titanium frame builder, they are really cheap. However you gotta note that these guys do not know how to design a frame, and from experience, building one is pretty suspect as well.... Answer to the question: Yes there is a difference.
I would like to caution you against using these guys, here are some of our experiences. They made a couple of frames for us in the past. Welding was horribly inconsistent. A couple of frames had derailleur hangers in the wrong location and we had to 'modify' them ourselves. A frame came without the derailleur hanger threaded.... was a b*tch to do. Calls for frames to be fixed (the ones with derailleur hangers in wrong locations), were largely ignored.
Most of the vent holes had really bad staining which I can only conclude to be cutting oil spilling out after backpurging. Pictures to them resulted in "they were fine when they left us" answers..
Some of the frames developed creaking at the seattube/ shim joint and 1 shim eventually separated (although it doesn't really need to be welded in place).
ALL frames had headtubes that were not faced properly.
Any changes you make to the frame drawings BEFORE production resulted in an increase in price. They stiff you for shipping fees and bank charges... oh yeah and funny how the double butted and straight gauge frames came in the same weight but cost more.
Of course, on the positive side, compared to an american titanium frame builder, they are really cheap. However you gotta note that these guys do not know how to design a frame, and from experience, building one is pretty suspect as well.... Answer to the question: Yes there is a difference.
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