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Old 07-17-22, 06:27 AM
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Front derailleur rub

Wondering if this is normal or needs adjustment.

Just got a new Topstone with 2x11 GRX components. While I’m aware of cross chaining, it appears I can only run about 2/3’s of the cogs with the chainring on the same respective side before the chain rubs on the derailleur. I do get it on both sides of the derailleur so I’m not sure it’s out of adjustment. Seems if I adjusted it a bit to prevent the rub on one side I would increase it on the other(ps obviously not a mechanic), and honestly the shifting itself seems pretty spot on.

I’ve only got probably 75 miles on this bike and it’s my first drop bar bike in 30 years, so essentially I’m a “brifter” virgin. The LBS I bought this from is a small 1 man shop who has been around for 10-15 years, but he is a newer Cannondale dealer, and honestly probably spends most his time in the more economical range components. While I’m pretty confident in his abilities in setting these up, just would like some second thoughts.
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Old 07-17-22, 06:41 AM
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Does the left shifter have, what I'll call, a "trim click"?

On my 2x10 Shimano road brifters, I can click the shifter a little bit to trim the front derailleur to avoid the interference. One of the combos still cross chains, but the trim feature allows all the other gears.

Coming from downtube shifters, the trim clicking took some practice. Hard to explain the feel but I'll call it a softer half push on the lever.

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Originally Posted by BTinNYC
Does the left shifter have, what I'll call, a "trim click"?
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This is the answer. GRX shifters have a trim function which allows the front derailleur to slightly move to avoid chain rub when cross chained. I have it on my GRX 2 x 11 setup and it works perfectly
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Originally Posted by BTinNYC
Does the left shifter have, what I'll call, a "trim click"?

On my 2x10 Shimano road brifters, I can click the shifter a little bit to trim the front derailleur to avoid the interference. Big front to small rear still cross chains, but the trim feature allows all the other gears.

Coming from downtube shifters, the trim clicking took some practice. Hard to explain the feel but I'll call it a softer half push on the lever.
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This is the answer. GRX shifters have a trim function which allows the front derailleur to slightly move to avoid chain rub when cross chained. I have it on my GRX 2 x 11 setup and it works perfectly
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I'll just throw this in here due to what I see all the time. The GRX front derailleur is a new(er) design, it's called a toggle link derailleur. I see them come in to the shop all the time and I'd have to guess about 80-90% of them are set up incorrectly. If your shop guy is like the majority and doesn't pay attention to manuals for 'new' stuff there's a really good chance that derailleur isn't adjusted properly. It might just be a trim click that will sort you out, but be aware that these derailleurs are totally different from any other front derailleur ever made and they need to be set up according to a very specific set of instructions.
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Originally Posted by cxwrench
I'll just throw this in here due to what I see all the time. The GRX front derailleur is a new(er) design, it's called a toggle link derailleur. I see them come in to the shop all the time and I'd have to guess about 80-90% of them are set up incorrectly. If your shop guy is like the majority and doesn't pay attention to manuals for 'new' stuff there's a really good chance that derailleur isn't adjusted properly. It might just be a trim click that will sort you out, but be aware that these derailleurs are totally different from any other front derailleur ever made and they need to be set up according to a very specific set of instructions.
Got to ride it this afternoon, just less than 15 miles but in the Driftless region of Wisconsin, so there were many hills and much shifting. The trim click solved the issue, and it silenced the rub every time.

That being said, can I assume he did set it up correctly? Or is there something else that I should be aware of?
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A friend bought a new bike with a similar FD. He also complained about minor shifting problems. Then he found this on-line resource and adjusted it himself. He was real happy with it, said it was easy. Start from scratch, follow it step-by-step, and you may get a similar result.

The FD on my gravel bike is an older tech, has a trim position, and with careful adjustment I don't need it.
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Originally Posted by andrewclaus
A friend bought a new bike with a similar FD. He also complained about minor shifting problems. Then he found this on-line resource and adjusted it himself. He was real happy with it, said it was easy. Start from scratch, follow it step-by-step, and you may get a similar result.

The FD on my gravel bike is an older tech, has a trim position, and with careful adjustment I don't need it.
Perfect, thanks that looks like a valuable resource for sure.
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