Atlas Shrugged

You mentioned earlier that the brakes we contaminated because he touched the rotors with greasy hands; degreasing, sanding, 3 sets of pads did not fix this.
You mentioned earlier that you went to a bike shop to purchase a $15,000 bicycle but were shocked to find no bikes with rim brakes and integrated headsets, etc so you left.
Now you say you work at a shop but aren't offering to help your "pal"

Something isn't adding up here.

tomato coupe

Your wife said she was thinking of getting the Colnago for you, but we told her you didn't like disc brakes or electronic shifting, and she decided to get you something else. Enjoy your new sweater.

Lombard

I'm out of popcorn and at this rate, I can't afford anymore.

Koyote

The art of BS'ing isn't about lying or exaggeration -- it's about spewing words that bear no relation to anything resembling truth. Just random nonsense.

Camilo

I can't believe there's anyone in the world who would give up a rim brake road bike that they like for a disc brake bike for that reason only. But the world is made up of all types so I guess people must do that.

Don't get me wrong: I have nothing against disc brakes. My newest bike has disc brakes and electronic shifting - I like both well enough. But I would not give up my rim/mechanical bikes simply because of the brakes. It's just not that important. Marginal if anything.

kommisar

If you didn't fall for that propaganda about freewheels you wouldn't need brakes at all. And while we're at it, if you hadn't fallen to that siren song that is pneumatic tires, you wouldn't need removable valves, sealant or inflators. Get off of my lawn.

Chuck M 

I honestly don't try to urinate upwards on a rope with people online, and that wasn't what I was trying to do with his "pal". But I too wondered about the shop reference. I learned 40 years ago in auto shop to not touch brake surfaces. I assumed that anyone working in a bike shop would have understood that touching a rotor with "greasy paws" was a mistake. If not, I wouldn't want my bike worked on in that shop.

PeteHski

I disagree. These threads always go exactly the same way i.e. they start off with a few sensible, benign comments and then some diehard rim brake guy comes along trying to convince themselves that they are smarter than all those people who moved on to disc brakes. I don't think I've ever seen a comment like that in reverse. Maybe you can show me an example? I think these extreme militants you speak of are almost entirely on the rim brake side of the argument and they soon derail any brake related thread.

There's quite a difference between raving about how amazing your brakes are (whatever type) and rubbishing the different choices other people have made. It's always a few rim brake guys who do the latter. Rather than just stating how amazing their rim brakes are, they just can't help listing all the reasons why they think disc brakes are crap and how they are so much smarter than everyone who was taken in by "Big Bike". Then it inevitably kicks off and the thread ends up just like this one.

I find it both pathetic and amusing.

smd4

I nominate your post.

PeteHski

Pretty ironic considering it was your opening effort that launched this thread down the pan.

smd4

Settle down.

Disc brakes offer no discernible benefit to me.

pdlamb

Can anybody prove this thread hasn't been hacked by an AI chatbot?

seypat

I actually think the OP is a sock. Look at the subjects of the threads he/she is starting. As we know, controversy gets clicks. Advertisers want clicks.

Lombard

3 days and 213 replies. Keep 'em coming!

PeteHski

Nobody would have argued with you had you simply stated that. But you just couldn't help yourself opening your first post on this thread with "Disk brakes are ugly, inelegant, heavy, and by many accounts a PITA to deal with, in terms of maintenance, installation, etc." Statements like this are guaranteed to bring down a rim vs disc brake thread. But it happens every time and that was my point.

smd4

So, just so we're clear: I'm not allowed to express my opinion. Because you don't like it.

Check.

PeteHski

You can say whatever you like. You got the response your "opinion" deserved from several posters. It was inevitable really.

smd4

So if I say nice things about disc brakes, I will “deserve” a different response?

Check. Again.

Jughed

My opinion as a 195# (in shape) rider. 3600 miles on my disc brake road bike, 1500+ miles on my disc brake CX bike.

I flat love them. Have zero issues with rub/squeal or noises. The CX bike is ridden offroad/gravel & sees more dirt/grime. The brakes are holding up fine. The road bike brakes were just checked and are at 1/3 of their service life.

I will never be a 160# rider. I need the extra stopping power, and use it... I'm not worried about an extra pound or so on the bike, makes little difference to my overall system weight.

And the rims are more durable for heavy riders. After flat exploding a set of Dura Ace rims and constantly dealing with bent rims/broken spokes on my rim brake bikes - I've had zero issues with the disc brake wheelsets.

That being said - I have a bunch of older Dura Ace stuff from my cracked CF rim brake frame that I will be using to build a lightweight rim brake bike for the local flat/fast bike path.

PeteHski

Well you could just say nice things about rim brakes without starting off with slating disc brakes, which you happen to have very little experience of - which is really obvious from your opinion. But my point was that this kind of nonsense is what causes ALL these rim vs disc brake threads to end up as a train wreck. The evidence is right here in this thread after your first post.

smd4

Must be nice feeling that you can tell people what they can post, how to post it, and what not to post. I wonder where that power comes from?

Rolla

The BF Motto: "If you get tired of arguing the topic, argue about the arguing." This is one absurd little sandbox.

Eric F 

This ^^^ isn't actually a thing that happens for most people. Changing out disc brake pads is easier than rim brake pads. Cleaning rotors is pretty darn easy, too.

This sounds a lot like he doesn't know what he's doing, and it probably chasing the wrong solutions to the issues. I went through the same kinds of struggles when I was learning how to set up rim brakes over 30 years ago.

CFLBIKE

To reply to the OP. Yes I am keeping my rim brake frames.

Bent the rear derailleur hanger on my road bike. Not my fault this time. Was hoping a new hanger would fix the shifting issue but stopped to look at the new bikes on the way out of the shop just in case. A very bored and nice bike shop person with time to kill came over to show me the new bikes and explain how to set them up in the manner I prefer even after being told most likely would not be buying. To get a new bike better than my current bike the price tag would have been about $5000.00 plus about another $600.00 in parts and tools to make the changes I like.

Would I like a current bike with all the new features? Yes, But just bought an 10 to 12 year old used one with high end components (Dura-Ace) with low use that sat years in a garage with scratched up paint cost me $100.00 for a spare. The frame fits me. Tires and other parts to make it as I like will be around another $160.00 when done. All ready have the tools and experience to do the work. It is nice have a spare road bike that I can get 16MPH average speed out of. Just did that this weekend with it and upgrades are not finished yet. Any one wish to sell me their newer up to date road bike for this amount? I think I hear crickets. Any way some of us luddites will be running rim brakes for a while yet. At least till today's modern bikes are no longer current and are unwanted.

Atlas Shrugged

The over-the-top exaggerations and outright lies get me to weigh into what is obviously a waste of time. Hopefully, a rational person will be able to see these Luddites for what they are and make informed decisions. As I mentioned earlier, these traditional-style forums are a vestige of early dial-up internet days. They are populated by a much older, less contemporary demographic that time has left behind. The majority of bikes participants boastfully post images of usually have a minimum of 1" or 2" headset spacers as a starting point and a riser stem, not the usual build of a group of active and passionate cyclists. Traditional triggers keep on being discussed and ranted about. Carbon fibre has a limited lifespan, tubular tires, 3X drivetrains; gravel bikes are a marketing scam; Italian vintage bikes have a superior ride and build quality, titanium vibration absorbing qualities, bar end shifters, wide tubeless tires etc all of which are relevant only to someone who delivered newspapers by bike in the 70's.

But I keep coming back, so it's on me, that's for sure.