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Old 11-25-20, 01:54 AM
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How things are going in your area?

Is your local government planning for another lockdown again? I wonder if non-essential facilities will be affected in case another lockdown starts, like the last time it happened. My city's been fairing well but we are still high on covid-19 cases, but with yuletide season coming in, not sure how bad it can get again.
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Old 11-25-20, 02:13 AM
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Been 4 or 5 months since any cases of local transmission in my state. No restrictions on anything, economy is going pretty good, bars, restaurants open. Nationwide we had a little cluster of 28 cases in another state, caused by a cross transmission from an overseas traveler to a quarantine worker, who lived in a large family home. But basically that got stomped on pretty well instantly, a 6 day hard lockdown and massive contact tracing. 6 days got cut to 3 when they realised a guy lied about catching covid from buying a pizza from a shop where the patient zero quarantine worker worked a second job. They thought it might be a very transmissible strain. Turns out the second dude worked there and was worried about tax or immigration (he was from Spain on a student visa) A thousand or so close contacts were quarantined, some in hotels if necessary and there haven't been any new cases since.
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Old 11-25-20, 06:14 AM
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'rona is on the rise wear your mask and stay out of public areas unless absolutely necessary. This is everyone's responsibility.
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Old 11-25-20, 09:02 AM
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we have the same issues here as the rest, but our leaders at the higher levels refuse to mandate anything. I am actually OK with that...hate to be told what to do. We just take personal responsibility for ourselves and were doing fine. Kids are still in school where they belong....life is going as good as it can be.
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Old 11-25-20, 09:22 AM
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Most schools here in the area closed for online classes . Newspaper headlines everyday are Covid related. Bars and restaurants closed for indoor seating. Thanksgiving gatherings discouraged.
Taxes going up without a hitch. . Welcome to socialist Illinois. Good news There is a new bridge being built across the Mississippi. The westbound side into Iowa is complete.
Leaving Illinois for safer .less tax burdensome just got safer .
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Old 11-25-20, 10:40 AM
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It depends on what you mean by "area." I live in Los Angeles County, which has shown a sharp uptick in cases. But as the plot below demonstrates, the scope of new infections is highly regionalized. Some areas are doing quite well, and others terribly.



LA county is implementing tighter controls. No more outdoor dining as of tonight at 10PM. That particular one is highly contentious, with some communities defying the order, as they apparently do not believe outdoor dining is a significant cause for the increase in infections. The plot below may explain why. As for me, I was scheduled to finally have my long overdue dentist appointment, and canceled it. I do not believe dining outdoors to be particularly risky, but going to a dentist ...



FWIW, this summarizes the debate:

https://la.eater.com/2020/11/24/2169...3D57KVt4Ty0TbM
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Old 11-25-20, 10:41 AM
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Something I never thought I'd see. For most practical purposes, I really can't cross the border from NH to MA without risking a $500 fine. Now if we could stop those MA bastards from coming up here because there are still bars open...
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Old 11-25-20, 12:59 PM
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Something I never thought I'd see. For most practical purposes, I really can't cross the border from NH to MA without risking a $500 fine. Now if we could stop those MA bastards from coming up here because there are still bars open...
Bars and restaurants in PA cannot sell alcohol between 5 tonight at 8 tomorrow morning, which seems a bit dumb since indoor dining and drinking is not currently allowed.
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Old 11-25-20, 02:36 PM
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Rhode Island has a higher rate of infection than adjoining states. I don't know officially why this is so but I suspect it is because this state is a tourist destination and I see people is town, some not wearing masks, who clearly are visitors. I see people at the restaurants with outdoor seating with no masks and that behaviour can't be good. The governor, Gina Raimondo, is a former venture capitalist and no doubt has taken the pulse of the state business community.
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Old 11-25-20, 04:32 PM
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Our liquor stores and weed dispensaries have never closed. It's all about the taxes.
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Old 11-25-20, 06:13 PM
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On the increase in San Antonio. Haven’t look at the stats very closely but there was 1300 new cases in an area of around 1.5 million. I’m staying isolated and my bike riding keeps my insanity in check. And a few cold beers...
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Old 11-25-20, 06:24 PM
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Wait a couple of weeks after this week. Judging by all the people travelling like there's no pandemic, I think we haven't seen nothing yet.
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Old 11-26-20, 02:28 AM
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Here in Kansas less than half of the counties have implemented the governor's face mask and distancing policy. Yeah, the numbers of cases (and deaths) have been lower in those counties, but the other half have over-full covid 19 wards, and their hospitals are sending patients to those other counties. So if the governor ordered a state-wide lockdown, many would ignore that too.
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Old 11-26-20, 03:57 AM
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Sharp increase in my area (north central Texas), same as most of the rest of the nation. Same reactions from people.

However there's a significant difference between comments on social media -- especially responding to post from the mayor -- and people in real life. Keyboard warriors are puffing out their chests in defiance. But they're a tiny minority. Most folks I see in meatspace are observing reasonable precautions.

Of course we'll see a huge escalation due to holiday gatherings.

Clear and consistent messages from leadership might have helped earlier. It's almost too late now. The main disconnect I'm seeing is that young healthy folks still regard it as just another "bad cold" or the flu, and even if they get it they'll get over it. They don't seem to be aware of the research that indicates the respiratory system is merely the front door for coronaviruses, and once inside the cooties may wreak havoc throughout the system, possibly even permanent damage.

Wednesday evening I was discussing this with some other cyclists and they seemed to get the point.

Recently cyclist Alex Dowsett contracted COVID-19 and had to abandon his plan to tackle another hour record. Oh, sure, he's still generating more than 400 Watts. But he's hindered just enough to interfere with attaining peak form.

A more appropriate message earlier might have emphasized to aspiring athletes that while they'll almost certainly recover from COVID-19, the lingering effects might hinder them from ever achieving peak form again. In many sports, especially against the clock, 99% of ones former peak form isn't good enough and there isn't much point in persisting unless they simply enjoy the activity regardless of whether they win.

Most folks don't live and work at 100% effort. So they won't notice the small loss of physical (and possibly mental) capacity caused by longterm reactions to COVID-19. It may take a harder hit to get their attention. That happened to me in the early 1980s when I worked in a hemodialysis clinic. I got a gamma globulin shot for exposure to hepatitis, had a sudden bad reaction and was never the same again physically. And it wasn't a slight loss of capacity that would only affect a serious athlete. It forced me to drop out of college for a full semester and cut back on work. It was more than a year before I felt reasonably well and my family said I was never the same again. I was in my early 20s then and felt like an old man trying to exercise. I had been a serious amateur boxer, raced some crits and time trials (I wasn't very good at either but enjoyed it), and played a lot of racquetball.

I had to give all of that up. I was still well enough to work, and often worked a part time job in addition to my full time job, plus other hobbies that were less physically demanding. But eventually I had to quit a part time job working on a freight dock. I just didn't have the energy to load and unload trucks like I used to, even at age 30.

Most of the keyboard warriors I see on social media complaining about lockdowns don't seem to be concerned about those kinds of longterm effects that might hinder their livelihoods and family life. They're preoccupied with being unable to pursue their pleasures -- going to bars and restaurants, concerts and sporting events. Even when they're rightfully concerned about employment, they're not considering the long term health losses against short term benefits.
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Old 11-27-20, 11:41 AM
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We're in the middle of a new statewide lockdown.

It was just supposed to be a couple of counties for a couple of weeks. But it was quickly expanded state-wide. I think it is one week in here, so we shouldn't start seeing significant impacts for another few days.

At this point a pretty leaky lockdown, allowing restricted restaurants and small gatherings including churches. But, I heard on the news that local gyms were fined for violations.

I'm not convinced that we'll be able to exit the lockdown. But, hopefully it will be tuned to deal with risk factors.

Cases are up a lot from a few weeks ago, but so far not as bad as those states stretching from the northern Rockies to the Great Lakes region.

US COVID-19 Case Rate Reported to the CDC in the Last 7 Days, by State/Territory (cases per 100K)

Our local hospital (hospitals) is reporting 18 hospitalized. I'm not sure about their capacity, but that should just be a drop in the bucket, especially if elective surgeries are down. We had 1 or 2 in the hospital in March/April. Then up to about 5 or so after Memorial Day, and through the summer. Now up to the 18.
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Old 11-27-20, 07:06 PM
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Too many folks have authority issues. Our 4 Eastern provinces have a total of just over 200 active cases, less than the city of Portland Maine. I haven't seen anyone not wearing a mask in months...it works. We're absolutely panic-stricken with 9 new cases in Nova Scotia today so the health care system just shut down all the bars and restaurants in the Central region with heavy fines laid for violations for both individuals and businesses. I wish it were the case across the rest of the country but we're going to get through this with a minimum amount of damage, I think.

Some wahoos think lockdowns are for wusses but they're just penny-wise and pound-foolish and lack the vision to see that fixing this early allows businesses and society to recover sooner and reap the rewards. Effective vaccine treatments are still a long way down the road.
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I had a sorta rare trip downtown Friday for a medical appointment and decided to combine it with some shopping for a few things I needed. Since March 2020 I've been trying to combine errands. And I self-quarantine after medical appointments since those are relatively higher risk exposures, although less so at my outpatient clinic vs the in-hospital specialty consults. I rescheduled my annual endocrinology appointment to teleconference for December.

I Ubered to the doctor but took the city bus back to save money. Usually it's three transfers to my home, but I bailed out downtown after the first bus. Not many people on the bus but half of them weren't wearing masks -- well, they had masks... around their chins. The last straw was the guy coughing without covering his pie hole. And these are people in the most vulnerable demographic -- over age 60, obese, etc.

I bailed out and walked the 8 miles home, stopping in a couple of shops to pick up a few things. Most of the younger people -- the least vulnerable demographic -- wore masks.

I've been walking 2-5 miles, three times a week anyway and was curious to see how some new walking shoes felt. Not bad. A little aching in the hips and lower back the last couple of miles. Mostly good to be away from willfully ignorant people.
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The county I work in is 76.55 daily new cases. Seven day rolling average per 100,000 residents.
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ICU beds are maxed in Jefferson County Tex but MASKLESS trump voters rally against Biden's election theft

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Originally Posted by FastMike View Post
Here in Kansas less than half of the counties have implemented the governor's face mask and distancing policy. Yeah, the numbers of cases (and deaths) have been lower in those counties, but the other half have over-full covid 19 wards, and their hospitals are sending patients to those other counties. So if the governor ordered a state-wide lockdown, many would ignore that too.
that's actually the worst thing when people really ignore all precautions, it may lead to really negative consequences
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ICU beds are maxed in Jefferson County Tex but MASKLESS trump voters rally against Biden's election theft

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They are already maskless so why are they apart from each other? If you are going to say screw the virus, do it all the way and with conviction.
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Bubba and Bubbette are fascinating creatures to study. I live among many of these creatures and I find them easy to confuse and they will believe anything. I had to explain what homogenized milk was to one of these species and that if you drink it you won’t grow wings . True story that I can’t really tell here but you can figure it out.
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You need to tell them chocolate milk comes from chocolate cows.

And pleather (plastic leather, aka vinyl) comes from plastic cows.
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You need to tell them chocolate milk comes from chocolate cows.

And pleather (plastic leather, aka vinyl) comes from plastic cows.
"My jacket was handcrafted from wild Patagonian Vinyls, from the North slopes of the Andes"

As an aside, I once got into trouble with my son for tricking him with a Patagonian story. Driving around in New Zealand, saw a bunch of cows in a deer paddock with the high fences. Son: "Why the high fences?" ...."Oh, they are Patagonian Jumping Cows, they can jump normal fences. You can tell because their ears are longer" Looks at cows, has no idea how long the ears are supposed to be. "OK"....
Couple of weeks later: "Ok class, what did you do on your holidays?" .... "I went to New Zealand and saw Patagonian Jumping Cows!" Teacher: "I don't think there is such a thing" "there is, we saw them, dad said so"
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In Portland they are coming out of a 2 week "freeze" on certain activities, and at the same time are raising the threat level from red to purple. They are also discovering more and more cases in younger people. The thinking is that these many months of mass gatherings at left wing protests as well as bad behavior by uncooperative college students have essentially spread Covid past any possibility of containment. It's going to be hard to blame that on Trump voters!
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