Self learner needing some assistance
04-16-21, 02:27 PM
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Self learner needing some assistance
So I bought an old bike and have been slowly taking it apart to fix what I can to make it work. Besides lots of parts being rusted(tossed a bunch of it in evaporust) found that a spoke was broken and that of course I needed a new chain. Already replaced the chain, pulled most parted to soak to remove rust. But my problem right now is the broken spoke. Besides not knowing the size of the spokes, my main problem is that there is a metal spoke guard behind the cassette and I can't get it off to get to the spot.... I thought I got it off.... but apparently only took off half of the cassette. It is a SunTour Perfect (I guess?) Had to use a hammer and a screwdriver since I didn't have the actual tools for it. But now it's the inside of the cassette that still there holding the metal disk, I tried using a bar to turn it but it's on tight.... uses a2 prong attachment... any tips????
04-16-21, 02:37 PM
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You have partially disassembled the Free Wheel. NOT what you wanted to do-
Freewheel or Cassette?
It needed either the 2 or 4 prong Suntour removal tool.
https://www.parktool.com/blog/repair...d-installation
Freewheel or Cassette?
It needed either the 2 or 4 prong Suntour removal tool.
https://www.parktool.com/blog/repair...d-installation
04-16-21, 02:41 PM
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There are youtube videos for just about any bike mechanical task - just have to figure out proper terms to search for.
Does this cover your cassette removal problem:
Does this cover your cassette removal problem:
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There are youtube videos for just about any bike mechanical task - just have to figure out proper terms to search for.
Does this cover your cassette removal problem:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQdkT2smzgg
Does this cover your cassette removal problem:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQdkT2smzgg
Doesn't help, he has a freewheel.
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https://www.amazon.com/Park-Tool-Fre.../dp/B077YQZ62Q
Or take the wheel to a shop and pay to have them remove what's left of the freewheel.
Or take the wheel to a shop and pay to have them remove what's left of the freewheel.
04-16-21, 03:43 PM
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There are youtube videos about removing these things. Find the video that is appropriate for what you have. Then you will probably need to buy the tools to do it.
04-16-21, 04:46 PM
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I guess il have to try and let it soak for the night. Hopefully it's just the rust gluing it together atm. I'll update tomorrow...
04-17-21, 09:31 AM
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https://www.amazon.com/Park-Tool-Fre.../dp/B077YQZ62Q
Or take the wheel to a shop and pay to have them remove what's left of the freewheel.
Or take the wheel to a shop and pay to have them remove what's left of the freewheel.
It is highly recommended to hold the nut in with inserted QR
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04-17-21, 03:50 PM
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Yeah, still didn't budge... since I don't have that tool yet, I'll just take it to a shop to pop it off.
Thanks for the fast replies guys.
Thanks for the fast replies guys.
04-17-21, 03:59 PM
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At least, that's what I would tell you.
04-17-21, 04:13 PM
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...if they've been in place for a while, and you see rust elsewhere on the bike, those rarely come off without some issues, even if you have the proper tool and technique. The tested approach at this point is to grab the remains of the freewheel in a solid bench vise, and twist it off, using the wheel at the rim for leverage. Sometimes, even this will not work. You may discover that whatever shop you take it to will be either reluctant to take on the job, or will caution you that the hub might break before the freewheel body twists off.
At least, that's what I would tell you.
At least, that's what I would tell you.
04-17-21, 05:07 PM
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...if they've been in place for a while, and you see rust elsewhere on the bike, those rarely come off without some issues, even if you have the proper tool and technique. The tested approach at this point is to grab the remains of the freewheel in a solid bench vise, and twist it off, using the wheel at the rim for leverage. Sometimes, even this will not work. You may discover that whatever shop you take it to will be either reluctant to take on the job, or will caution you that the hub might break before the freewheel body twists off.
At least, that's what I would tell you.
At least, that's what I would tell you.
04-17-21, 06:04 PM
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Nah, there are very few bikes that you can fully disassemble without a handful of specialized tools and instructions. It's just part of the fun. I'm not sure that self service always pays for itself, that's a gamble we always take.
04-18-21, 05:00 AM
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The trick to avoiding damage to either the freewheel or the removal tool is to hold the tool in place with the QR clamped down tightly---as tightly as when you secure the wheel in place in the dropouts. When you apply enough twisting force to feel the freewheel body just beginning to move on the hub, stop and loosen the QR a bit. Repeat the last steps until the freewheel is unscrewing freely.
04-18-21, 02:48 PM
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I am missing the gene that makes people want to work on bikes so neglected that it takes a dozen forum posts to get into the ballpark for success. Wrenching on bikes is good therapy when the bike you are starting with is at least from the 20th Century and still reliable. A bike co-op can set anyone up with a starter bike for $50. I bought a very nice Schwinn World Tourist at a garage sale for $30 and that bike didn't need much. In fact I rode it home 7 miles from the sale! New brake pads and it was as good as any other bike on the road. But of course I had to mess with it ...
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