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Old 06-24-21, 08:51 AM
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Vintage rear hub with sealed bearings ???

Hello. I would like to ask if you have ever seen rear hub with sealed bearings instead of tradional cup and cone bearings on such old bike. The hub has no marks or logos to help with identification. I am 100 % sure it didnt come up with the bike when it was built. It is mounted on Favorit road bike (Czechoslovakia, something around 1970). Also, when were the sealed bearings used for the first time in bike wheel hubs ? Thanks for your help

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Old 06-24-21, 09:11 AM
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Sorry I can't help with ID, but I had a bike in the late 1980s with sealed bearings. I'm pretty sure they were Shimano hubs. I could buy the bearing at a local machine shop for a few dollars.
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Mavic was producing and selling their 501 and related series hubs in the early 80's, maybe earlier. Unfortunately they're readily identified with 'MAVIC' imprint on the hub barrel.

Here's a thought: the iron curtain fell around the mid 80's, and the USSR and satellite states had no compunction copying Campagnolo designs throughout the decades. Perhaps the Mavic design was copied as well?
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Lambert/Viscount used sealed bearing hubs in the mid 70s, and I doubt they were the first.
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Originally Posted by andrewclaus View Post
Sorry I can't help with ID, but I had a bike in the late 1980s with sealed bearings. I'm pretty sure they were Shimano hubs. I could buy the bearing at a local machine shop for a few dollars.
Shimano has never used cartridge bearings. They seal with labyrinth seals but not with cartridges.
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Originally Posted by lego1234567 View Post
Hello. I would like to ask if you have ever seen rear hub with sealed bearings instead of tradional cup and cone bearings on such old bike. The hub has no marks or logos to help with identification. I am 100 % sure it didnt come up with the bike when it was built. It is mounted on Favorit road bike (Czechoslovakia, something around 1970). Also, when were the sealed bearings used for the first time in bike wheel hubs ? Thanks for your help

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My 84 Miyata Ridge Runner came with cartridge bearing hubs in 1984. Ive found patents back to the 1920s but I doubt those are the first.
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Thanks for your answers ! I inspected the hub carefully and found russian letters on bearings, so it looks it was made in Soviet Union (russia). Back in those days it was very common that eastern states (Czechoslovakia, Poland, Hungary, NDR, Soviet Union) have been copying things made in western Europe and sell it with another name. Looks like it is also my case. Also it is important to mention that in that age there was shortage of everything, especially bikes. So it is possible that it was made in some home workshop. I also remember DIY magazine being published in 80s, it was full of tutorials how to make different things with minimum equipment, including hubs which used cartridge bearings.
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Originally Posted by cyccommute View Post
Shimano has never used cartridge bearings. They seal with labyrinth seals but not with cartridges.
This was true until recently, but Shimano has crossed to the dark side with some of their new offerings. The MT 410 and 401 hubs use cartridge bearings.
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