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Old 07-18-21, 11:33 AM
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Team Miyata tire clearance?

I have an opportunity to purchase a Team Miyata. I own an 83 model 610 that I have converted to 700c with 38mm tires. Out of the 8 bikes I regularly ride it gets the most use. I do own an 18 lb Reynolds 853 Lemond for my racy bike but it is limited to 23mm tires.. How large a tire will a Team Miyata clear? Are there any insurmountable issues in converting to 700c? I would love to own a Team Miyata but don't want a heavier and older racing bike that won't take at least 32mm tires. Thanks for any advice. I did search but came up without much info.
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Old 07-18-21, 11:55 AM
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FWIW, I converted my Lemond Buenos Aires to 650b x 38mm wheels. Light, racy, and plush tires (win, win, win).
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I tried 25mm tires on my Lemond. Very tight in the carbon fork. They were doable but not enough benefit to make it worth buying a set IMHO, so I just kept it racy with 23's. I'm not sure how much a 650b conversion would gain me. I like it racy . Point is I have bikes for the full spectrum. I don't really need another narrow tire racer though.
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Originally Posted by RH Clark
snip . . . How large a tire will a Team Miyata clear? Are there any insurmountable issues in converting to 700c? I would love to own a Team Miyata but don't want a heavier and older racing bike that won't take at least 32mm tires. Thanks for any advice. I did search but came up without much info.
The bike was designed around 700c wheels but it is a racing bike. I'm skeptical that it can take a 32c tire. I own a '91 Team Miyata and it cannot. Racing bikes that can take 32c tend to be from the 70s when bikes typically had more generous clearance.
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Originally Posted by RH Clark
I have an opportunity to purchase a Team Miyata. I own an 83 model 610 that I have converted to 700c with 38mm tires. Out of the 8 bikes I regularly ride it gets the most use. I do own an 18 lb Reynolds 853 Lemond for my racy bike but it is limited to 23mm tires.. How large a tire will a Team Miyata clear? Are there any insurmountable issues in converting to 700c? I would love to own a Team Miyata but don't want a heavier and older racing bike that won't take at least 32mm tires. Thanks for any advice. I did search but came up without much info.
Best way to find out is to measure. Assuming it has tires on it, you (or the dealer) could pump up the tires and try bigger and bigger allen wrenches between the crown of the tire and the brake calipers/bridges. And between the sides of the rear tire and the chainstays. That gives a rough idea how much bigger you could go.
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Originally Posted by ThermionicScott
Best way to find out is to measure. Assuming it has tires on it, you (or the dealer) could pump up the tires and try bigger and bigger allen wrenches between the crown of the tire and the brake calipers/bridges. And between the sides of the rear tire and the chainstays. That gives a rough idea how much bigger you could go.
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WHAT YEAR Team Miyata? Specs change from year-to-year!

FWIW, the Miyata 710 changed dramatically from 85 to 86. My '86 710 will < barely > take a 700x28mm tire, whereas the '85 has a different fork. that will allow taller/wider tires.

Pic of my '86 710 with brand new 28mm tires. BARELY 1mm clearance between tire and fork crown.

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WHAT YEAR Team Miyata? Specs change from year-to-year!

FWIW, the Miyata 710 changed dramatically from 85 to 86. My '86 710 will < barely > take a 700x28mm tire, whereas the '85 has a different fork. that will allow taller/wider tires.

Pic of my '86 710 with brand new 28mm tires. BARELY 1mm clearance between tire and fork crown.

What tire is that if I may ask?
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I have a 90 TM. 25 is the limit for that one.
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What year team miyata?

I have an 84 and an 85

the 84 easily takes panaracer gravel kings in 28
the 84 easily takes conti gp5000 in 28 and vittoria corsa control tubular in 30mm

not sure what your mean by convert to 700c? the earliest reference to team miyata i can find is 81 and it had 700c rims
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Originally Posted by squirtdad
What year team miyata?

I have an 84 and an 85

the 84 easily takes panaracer gravel kings in 28
the 84 easily takes conti gp5000 in 28 and vittoria corsa control tubular in 30mm

not sure what your mean by convert to 700c? the earliest reference to team miyata i can find is 81 and it had 700c rims
I appreciate the info. I wasn't sure about wheel size. Just got a new computer and I can't seem to research anything nearly as well.
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Originally Posted by squirtdad
What year team miyata?

I have an 84 and an 85

the 84 easily takes panaracer gravel kings in 28
the 84 easily takes conti gp5000 in 28 and vittoria corsa control tubular in 30mm

not sure what your mean by convert to 700c? the earliest reference to team miyata i can find is 81 and it had 700c rims
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I appreciate the info. I wasn't sure about wheel size. Just got a new computer and I can't seem to research anything nearly as well.
i will also note I have measured the tiers the gp5000 measured at 28 on open pro rims, the corsa control measured 30mm on mavic reflex and the pananracer measured 28 on ma40 rims
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Originally Posted by rgvg
What tire is that if I may ask?
Vittoria Rubino Pro Tech III 28mm.



Once I actually got stopped by grass clippings that were blown into the road - yes, they stuck to the tire and jammed under the fork bridge, bringing me to a stop... Anyway, now I'm using the same tire but in 25mm up front. I had bought sets of both sizes. Now it wears the 25s up front and the 28s on the rear. Wheels have been changed since the pic. Now 36h Mavic Open Pro laced to Dura Ace hubs, and 15/16ga butted stainless spokes.

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