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Old 07-18-21, 02:58 PM
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I changed my password on Facebook and now my account is locked out. I put new passwords in and confirmed them and still locked out. Do any of you know if there’s anything going on with Facebook?
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Old 07-18-21, 03:38 PM
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Congratulations! You're now free of the 'Dark Force's' bondage. Go forth and enjoy your new-found freedom to engage with real people and things!
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You say "Locked out of Facebook" like that's a bad thing.
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...I heard that if you got vaccinated, the 5G chip will interfere with your login. That's just what I heard.
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I thought the responses were funny, thanks. I think I’m going to lock them out, lol.
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...I heard that if you got vaccinated, the 5G chip will interfere with your login. That's just what I heard.
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They locked me out a few months ago because I questioned something political. I'm not ready to get locked out of here so I won't even mention it.
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Facebook is very paranoid about people making fake accounts, so if you do something even slightly suspicious-seeming, you're going to be SOL. Changing a password twice in quick succession would probably qualify. I once had an old account I decided to reuse... but I both changed the email address and the password at the same time. That was apparently a no-no; within two minutes it was "upload a photo of yourself" & etc. etc. Wasn't going to do that so I just let it go.

Not sure how all the scammers who are always in comments sections manage to get their accounts through, though.
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Old 07-19-21, 02:54 AM
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Facebook nanny bots have gone insane recently. I just finished my third 24-hour suspension since May. In one instance, a post on a photography group, the bots mistook my use of the word "shoot" or "shooting" for a threat of violence, rather than the very familiar colloquial expression for "taking a photograph."

Farcebunk is using bots to automagically moderate all content, new and old. The two previous suspensions were for posting animated gifs from Pulp Fiction as ironic replies to posts from friends. The gifs were provided through Fakebroke itself, but the bots disapproved of gifs of the scene in the pawn shop basement with Marsellus and Butch dressed up in Betty Page regalia.

Another banned post was a gif from the 1950s sci-fi movie "The Day the Earth Stood Still." Some friends and I were playing a game of badly summarizing movies down to one or two sentences. My caption read something like "Gort, kill them all. This planet is hopeless." Boom, Farcebunk ban for inciting galactic violence.

There's a recourse to the FB Supreme Court, which supposedly generates reviews by human mods. But they select only a handful of cases to review, out of millions of suspensions and deletions per year. In previous reviews they have reversed some bans when the mod-bots misinterpreted parody, satire and irony. But then the human reviewers turned around and upheld the bans based on other infractions that they made up on the spot.

I'm only hanging around FB to watch Suckerborg's Frankenstein monster burn. I check it pretty much daily to keep up with real life local friends, and for event notifications that I might attend. But otherwise it's a smoldering pile of junk. I'm an admin on a photography page but I don't do anything with it. We have only a handful of active participants. If I can't find someone else to take the football I plan to shut down the group if it goes dormant for a week or two. Not worth the hassle.

I've been online since the 1980s, via BBSs, and access via our university and my government employer, mostly for work related stuff. And I've moderated photography and other niche hobbyist groups for years, until around 2015 when I got too busy. But social media has made the interwebs incalculably worse, particularly with the rampant invasion of privacy, suckerbait to get people to reveal way too much personal information, and the brain-dead consequences for using words the bots don't understand. But the worst consequence by far is human driven, the bloodlust for revenge, naming, blaming and shaming, and relentless displays of hubris and intolerance.

I've said for years that the only sensible way to participate online is anonymously and as privately as possible. Sure, it's nice to take a chance and meet new real life friends. But the risks are escalating to the point that I'm not sure it's worthwhile anymore.
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Old 07-19-21, 03:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Kat12 View Post
Facebook is very paranoid about people making fake accounts...
Facebook doesn't give a damn about fake accounts, guarantee it. More fake accounts and sockpuppets means more clicks, more page views, more revenue.

I'm an admin on a FB group and often report obviously fake profiles -- usually from Africa, sometimes parts of Asia. They spoof other accounts, mostly Americans, but often forget to change the name on the user's ID, which is generally in the poster's real name -- almost always from Nigeria, Sierra Leone, etc., sometimes Pakistan or Hong Kong. And they often leave their friends settings public, so you can see that virtually all of their contacts are real life family and friends from their home countries, confirmed by most of their publicly viewable posts. And they'll often have half a dozen spoofed accounts linked together, again using photos and basic data copied from Americans. I've reported dozens, maybe hundreds of these faked accounts. Not once has FB ever banned those accounts.

Same with blatant racism and hate speech. Almost invariably FB bots reply it doesn't violate their terms of use.

It's so obvious that FB doesn't care about fake accounts that one of my friends makes a hobby of creating multiple sockpuppets just to be a pest and show the futility of expecting any integrity from Facebook. Then he'll post junk memes and stream of consciousness nonsense dozens of times a day, sometimes hundreds of times a day, just baiting the FB mod-bots into suspending that account, so he'll fire up yet another fake profile. He's sort of like the Andy Kaufman of FB trolls.

I'm sure Fakebroke has access to the same info I did on sites where I was admin. It's not too difficult to spot sockpuppets because most people will use their home IPs. And even when they use proxies they tend to repeat identifiable patterns in posting styles, times, material, images and language patterns.

Farcebunk could do better. They just won't because it would cost them revenue. They'll continue counting the fake accounts as legit because it pays, and won't stop until there's a threat of legal action, or their own employees turn whistleblower.

Meanwhile they sic the lamest imaginable AI on actual members to badger them into conformity with a mutable set of rules. FB has turned into the world's biggest psychological manipulation and behavioral control experiment.
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You have done yourself a favor by locking yourself out of FB. Such a waste of time with trivial horse crap all the time.
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I had a Facebook account but never used it. My wife set it up so she can play POGO games and such and I don't know why she did that as she could have just used her account. Anyway my account got hijacked and this jerk was messaging my wife pretending to be me (I was at work at the time). After a brief conversation where he was "joshing" her she started to become suspicious and asked him to say something I would say. Of course he couldn't do that so he lashed out with a profanity-laced tirade. She than contacted Facebook where they suspended my dormant account as per her request but I don't know if they eliminated my account entirely.

I did have an account on Gab but ended up disabling it but that's a topic for another post.
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Originally Posted by canklecat View Post
Facebook doesn't give a damn about fake accounts, guarantee it. More fake accounts and sockpuppets means more clicks, more page views, more revenue.

I'm an admin on a FB group and often report obviously fake profiles -- usually from Africa, sometimes parts of Asia. They spoof other accounts, mostly Americans, but often forget to change the name on the user's ID, which is generally in the poster's real name -- almost always from Nigeria, Sierra Leone, etc., sometimes Pakistan or Hong Kong. And they often leave their friends settings public, so you can see that virtually all of their contacts are real life family and friends from their home countries, confirmed by most of their publicly viewable posts. And they'll often have half a dozen spoofed accounts linked together, again using photos and basic data copied from Americans. I've reported dozens, maybe hundreds of these faked accounts. Not once has FB ever banned those accounts.

Same with blatant racism and hate speech. Almost invariably FB bots reply it doesn't violate their terms of use.

It's so obvious that FB doesn't care about fake accounts that one of my friends makes a hobby of creating multiple sockpuppets just to be a pest and show the futility of expecting any integrity from Facebook. Then he'll post junk memes and stream of consciousness nonsense dozens of times a day, sometimes hundreds of times a day, just baiting the FB mod-bots into suspending that account, so he'll fire up yet another fake profile. He's sort of like the Andy Kaufman of FB trolls.

I'm sure Fakebroke has access to the same info I did on sites where I was admin. It's not too difficult to spot sockpuppets because most people will use their home IPs. And even when they use proxies they tend to repeat identifiable patterns in posting styles, times, material, images and language patterns.

Farcebunk could do better. They just won't because it would cost them revenue. They'll continue counting the fake accounts as legit because it pays, and won't stop until there's a threat of legal action, or their own employees turn whistleblower.

Meanwhile they sic the lamest imaginable AI on actual members to badger them into conformity with a mutable set of rules. FB has turned into the world's biggest psychological manipulation and behavioral control experiment.
This^
I read the first 1/2 of what’s her face “Option B” book.
What a load of drivel.
Then she acted like she cared about the platform being used for political purposes.
Obviously she only cared that the outcome didn’t go her way.

Not a big fan of oligarchs pretending to care about the common man.
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Every time I read something like this thread, I thank my lucky stars that I've never had a FB account.....or Twitter....or Instagram.......
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I too never did FB... But I also find it terribly annoying that some information is only available on FB... restaurant menus for instance, or local groups for various things like sailing or music. Often I can go view the FB page... and find what I want, but I am also nagged to join FB every damn time and may not scroll past some imaginary line "for further information."
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I too never did FB... But I also find it terribly annoying that some information is only available on FB... restaurant menus for instance, or local groups for various things like sailing or music. Often I can go view the FB page... and find what I want, but I am also nagged to join FB every damn time and may not scroll past some imaginary line "for further information."
Yes, a lot of cycling events are only available for view on FB now, and some software companies like TurboTax will only provide direct assistance through social media like FB. My nephew was unable to get a job, because he didn't have a FB account so that they could check him out. Basically, people's lives are being held hostage by FB and others, just like it's nearly impossible to exist w/o a smartphone.
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Yes, a lot of cycling events are only available for view on FB now, and some software companies like TurboTax will only provide direct assistance through social media like FB. My nephew was unable to get a job, because he didn't have a FB account so that they could check him out. Basically, people's lives are being held hostage by FB and others, just like it's nearly impossible to exist w/o a smartphone.
Several years ago I tried to use Uber, could not do so as it (then) required a FB account. So I have never Ubered either.
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They have a lot of cycling things on Facebook that I read, but now it’s just a pain.
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Originally Posted by canklecat View Post
Facebook nanny bots have gone insane recently. I just finished my third 24-hour suspension since May. In one instance, a post on a photography group, the bots mistook my use of the word "shoot" or "shooting" for a threat of violence, rather than the very familiar colloquial expression for "taking a photograph."
Could be worse.
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Every time I read something like this thread, I thank my lucky stars that I've never had a FB account.....or Twitter....or Instagram.......

Same here. If I want to get into social and political rants I'll sign on to Bikeforum's Politics and Religion' thread.
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Yeah, if that provoked legal action, imagine what would happen if AI bots (or mods whose first language isn't the American idiom) tried to figure out the lyrics in some songs by Chrissie Hynde, Courtney Love, Brody Dalle or Liz Phair.

It's interesting that rappers are often accused of inciting violence, despite their explanations that they're talking about real life stuff they've experienced. But nobody claims those women musicians are advocating sexual violence when they sing about their own traumas.

I hear rumors among the security pundits claiming that every word posted online -- on a forum, personal text or private email -- and every word spoken, is harvested by some gigantic digital Eye of Sauron to be analyzed and used against us. Maybe so. But if Fakebook's AI bots are any indication, they'd have no idea what to make of what most of us write and say because most complex cultures develop idiomatic expressions that defy simplistic methods of parsing. All that data may be harvested but it'll probably digital-rot in a virtual basement somewhere, only to be dug up and converted into some bizarre memes or forms of entertainment decades or centuries from now.
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