Your Experiences With Supplements?
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I'd like to blame aging but I've taken these for many years and it was just as hard to remember 20 years ago. But it's all more critical now so I need to get it right.
10-02-20, 09:39 PM
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Not being able to get enough protein from food is one of the biggest lies ever invented by supplement manufacturers, it's a marketing strategy used by supplement manufacturers to sell more protein powder...In reality it is very easy to get more than enough protein from food. Protein deficiency doesn't exist and most people are already eating more than enough. Protein powder is not some magical substance that will build muscle. Foods such as meat, fish, dairy products, eggs are the foundation for building and maintaining muscle.
Many, many people use protein powder because they don't want to ingest protein other ways. Not because they can't get enough. Perhaps they don't like subsidizing factory meat farming, or are looking to address cholesterol issues - there are myriad reasons people seek alternatives in their diet(s).
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I've been taking Omega-3s lately because I'm a vegetarian. for me as a person who does not eat meat and fish, the issue of food supplements is particularly acute. Some micronutrients and some amino acids I just can't get without meat and fish, but because of my moral views I can't eat meat and fish and I have to buy supplements and vitamin complexes. If you are looking for a quality store where you can order supplements, I advise you to pay attention to this site https://www.vitaminexpress.org/uk/. On it you can choose for yourself vitamins and supplements that will be related to maintaining health, which will strengthen the health of the joints, to maintain your cardiovascular system. There are also vitamins that can be taken during diet and weight loss. You can read about each vitamin complex, food supplement and compare prices with other sites and choose the best option for yourself. I have been using this site for a year and I am satisfied with the range of goods and service.
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10-16-20, 10:41 PM
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I didn't take supplements most of my life, eating a varied diet of lots of veggies, some meats and fish, etc. Pretty healthy I think. I also have had a "minor" heart condition since at least early teenage years (early 40's now) called SVT. It is an electrical problem. Severity is different for everyone and it isn't typically fatal when you are young and healthy but when you have an episode it is scary as hell. You go from 60 bps to 160 bps in a single second and it feels like your heart is going to jump out of your chest while it also somehow magically pumps less blood so you can get very lightheaded and dizzy. Anyway this came and went for 25 + years until I read a study that had been done at a university regarding the effects of different oils in preventing stress induced SVT on rats. Olive oil, fish oil, flaxseed oil, etc. I figured what the hell and started taking fish oil and it immediately changed my llfe. I hardly ever have an episode anymore and when I do it is over before I even have time to get worked up over it. When I told my cardiologist 6 months later he said I was one of the lucky ones that benefit from it and that I did not need to come back and see him anymore unless I became symptomatic in the future. That was 3 years ago.
I also have another minor condition called interstitial cystitis. It can best be described as a mad bladder every now and then which can become extremely uncomfortable. Dr.'s were not a lot of help in diagnosing, much less treating it as it is fairly rare and there has not been much research to date. I found a small community online and after researching the advice I received I started taking Quercertin with Bromelain capsules once a day (with the fish oil) and I'm also completely symptom free.
This doesn't have much to do with performance, but I can say I am now a firm believer in the effects of supplements in the right conditions. I will also say anecdotally that when I put beet root powder in my shakes in the morning I feel like my stamina on the bike noticeably improves.
I also have another minor condition called interstitial cystitis. It can best be described as a mad bladder every now and then which can become extremely uncomfortable. Dr.'s were not a lot of help in diagnosing, much less treating it as it is fairly rare and there has not been much research to date. I found a small community online and after researching the advice I received I started taking Quercertin with Bromelain capsules once a day (with the fish oil) and I'm also completely symptom free.
This doesn't have much to do with performance, but I can say I am now a firm believer in the effects of supplements in the right conditions. I will also say anecdotally that when I put beet root powder in my shakes in the morning I feel like my stamina on the bike noticeably improves.
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beet juice , a plain multi vitamin mostly for extra vitamin d , and green tea , have allowed me to make a significant advance in ability , mostly in VO2 max , without extra training , i can feel it , its different from anything i have felt before .
i think if you look at supplements as a food source that has an effect on your body's chemical production you will be better off , ingest the things that support your body's ability to make blood cells , or testosterone , rather than just gulping down stuff in hopes it will just work .
i think if you look at supplements as a food source that has an effect on your body's chemical production you will be better off , ingest the things that support your body's ability to make blood cells , or testosterone , rather than just gulping down stuff in hopes it will just work .
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10-17-20, 04:28 AM
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I have a vitamin D3 supplement that I was prescribed with my daily cup of cheap drip coffee for my caffeine addiction. I add "protein powder" in my oatmeal because it's powdered peanut butter, and I like to eat peanut butter.
10-17-20, 10:58 AM
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beet juice , a plain multi vitamin mostly for extra vitamin d , and green tea , have allowed me to make a significant advance in ability , mostly in VO2 max , without extra training , i can feel it , its different from anything i have felt before .
i think if you look at supplements as a food source that has an effect on your body's chemical production you will be better off , ingest the things that support your body's ability to make blood cells , or testosterone , rather than just gulping down stuff in hopes it will just work .
i think if you look at supplements as a food source that has an effect on your body's chemical production you will be better off , ingest the things that support your body's ability to make blood cells , or testosterone , rather than just gulping down stuff in hopes it will just work .
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01-07-21, 04:38 PM
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The only supplements I take are calcium with vitamin D and B12. The calcium/D hs no effect. The B12 definitely helps my energy level, mood and sleep. I stopped taking it for a while due to having a very high level of B12 with my last lab work. I started taking it again 4 or 5 days ago and I have slept better the past couple nights. That alone, of course, helps the energy and frame of mind. I really have no valid comment other than that.
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Quite sure I could easily pass. I for instance dont use a book mark, it just remember what page I was on.
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Caffeine and Aspirin are my 2 favorites, work quite well, no adverse issues.
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01-10-21, 06:39 AM
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My regimen:
1. Multivitamin One a Day
2. Vitamin k2
3. Magnesium
4. Pycnogenol (French maritime pine bark extract) and Centellicum Centella asiatica leaf (also known as Gotu Kola)
5. Omega 3.
6 Cocoavia
7. sulforaphane
8. Whey protein
9. 250mg ascorbic acid
1. Multivitamin One a Day
2. Vitamin k2
3. Magnesium
4. Pycnogenol (French maritime pine bark extract) and Centellicum Centella asiatica leaf (also known as Gotu Kola)
5. Omega 3.
6 Cocoavia
7. sulforaphane
8. Whey protein
9. 250mg ascorbic acid
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One supplement that I have found works wonders for me is Sport Legs.
01-10-21, 03:45 PM
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the gains you think you are getting from supplements is all in your head, and that's ok if it makes you work harder, but the supplements in and by themselves do nothing, and any doctor will tell you that, and they'll also tell you that a well balanced food diet is all the supplements you need...unless your body doesn't absorb certain things in food but your doctor can tell you that with a blood test.
Plus you said you noticed gradual improvements over a 3 month period, well guess what? you were riding your bicycle, those improvements came from riding the bike regularly and not from the supplements.
Supplements can actually do more harm than good over the long haul:
https://healthfully.com/supplements-...r-6187990.html
https://www.self.com/story/taking-too-many-supplements
https://www.webmd.com/diet/guide/eff...any-vitamins#1
Some doctors might suggest taking a supplement, but guess what they suggest taking? a cheap once a day multivitamin. There are some good supplements that can benefit people, but mostly older people: https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/art...ntial-benefits Some people have iron deficiencies need to take iron pills, but only under doctors care because you can OD on iron; certain older people need vitamin B12, but again a doctor will test to see if you are deficient in that area.
Plus you said you noticed gradual improvements over a 3 month period, well guess what? you were riding your bicycle, those improvements came from riding the bike regularly and not from the supplements.
Supplements can actually do more harm than good over the long haul:
https://healthfully.com/supplements-...r-6187990.html
https://www.self.com/story/taking-too-many-supplements
https://www.webmd.com/diet/guide/eff...any-vitamins#1
Some doctors might suggest taking a supplement, but guess what they suggest taking? a cheap once a day multivitamin. There are some good supplements that can benefit people, but mostly older people: https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/art...ntial-benefits Some people have iron deficiencies need to take iron pills, but only under doctors care because you can OD on iron; certain older people need vitamin B12, but again a doctor will test to see if you are deficient in that area.
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Caffeine is a drug, in my opinion. I'd much rather supplement and support digestion, metabolism, including the aiding of transportation and the break down of fats via amino acids.
C,D3 & K (those 2 go hand in hand), B12, B6, CoQ10, Cats Claw, Magnesium, fish oil, Chlorella
I don't buy into the whole Supplement mix game market BS though, take what is beneficial, take what you need. Take what you don't get in food anymore.
At the end of the month I have spent way less on supplements than most have spent on sports drinks, Not counting coffee etc...
L-lysine and Actyl-L carnitine have been very benificial, as has been SAM-e. SAM-e has been huge towards fighting tinnitus.
no this isn't an anti -coffee post, I like coffee, like I like black licorice. I just come from a place where I don't need coffee to function.
Lyme disease killed my enzyme production, so I also supplement super enzymes with my food.
Caffeine is a drug, in my opinion. I'd much rather supplement and support digestion, metabolism, including the aiding of transportation and the break down of fats via amino acids.
C,D3 & K (those 2 go hand in hand), B12, B6, CoQ10, Cats Claw, Magnesium, fish oil, Chlorella
I don't buy into the whole Supplement mix game market BS though, take what is beneficial, take what you need. Take what you don't get in food anymore.
At the end of the month I have spent way less on supplements than most have spent on sports drinks, Not counting coffee etc...
L-lysine and Actyl-L carnitine have been very benificial, as has been SAM-e. SAM-e has been huge towards fighting tinnitus.
no this isn't an anti -coffee post, I like coffee, like I like black licorice. I just come from a place where I don't need coffee to function.
Lyme disease killed my enzyme production, so I also supplement super enzymes with my food.
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I'm a big believer in "Better Living Through Chemistry", and I take vitamin D3, B12 (sublingual), eye vitamins, multi vitamins for 55+ guys, vitamin C 1000mg and a potassium caplet daily. And a discreet amount of testosterone cream applied to a secret location on my person. More expensive pee? That's exactly what I'm going for.
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A PCP MD is pretty much the last person who's advice I would trust regarding supplements. The vast majority of them - from my experience (and I deal with alot of doctors) - are extremely ignorant when it comes to supplements, the science behind them, and the latest research and studies into their effectiveness. They simply don't have the time and in many cases the interest to stay on top of the field. My .02 cents.
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There's no science behind supplements. The whole category of supplements was invented to get around requirements that drugs be proven safe and effective. They have to carry disclaimers that basically admit they don't do anything good. They're ersatz pharmaceuticals.
Suffice to say there are literally thousands of peer reviewed scientific articles in numerous journals on supplements. You're clearly quite ignorant on this topic and I'm not going to waste any more of my time debating it with you.
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Ohhh .. you're the troll .. er guy I mean that likes to pointlessly argue with people now I remember your handle.
Suffice to say there are literally thousands of peer reviewed scientific articles in numerous journals on supplements. You're clearly quite ignorant on this topic and I'm not going to waste any more of my time debating it with you.
Suffice to say there are literally thousands of peer reviewed scientific articles in numerous journals on supplements. You're clearly quite ignorant on this topic and I'm not going to waste any more of my time debating it with you.
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