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So, about the crash - what descent was it? What happened? Come into a turn too hot and slide out?
The thing about road bikes vs hybrids is that road bikes are built to be stable at speed, whereas hybrids are meant to be comfortable. You may be able to keep up with the ride on the flat on a hybrid - especially if you're drafting them - because that's just a question of legs and gears. The descent is where the road bike will be faster, because it's more stable.
The thing about road bikes vs hybrids is that road bikes are built to be stable at speed, whereas hybrids are meant to be comfortable. You may be able to keep up with the ride on the flat on a hybrid - especially if you're drafting them - because that's just a question of legs and gears. The descent is where the road bike will be faster, because it's more stable.
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Yeah, but it's always fun to pretend.
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LarrySellerz, you rock. I love how you’re the total anti-racerboi. You can ride with me anytime. In fact, I know of a weekly late night group ride that you’d fit right into.
I’m not surprised at all that the club asked you to go somewhere else. As I started into this thread, I wondered why they’d insist you have a biking kit or jersey. (The helmet and waiver I understand.) As more of the story comes out, I realize it’s not a particular kind of shirt they’re looking for, they just don’t want you shirtless. And there may be valid reasons for that.
I think of the guy on a $15k Pinarello. He’s decked out with 12 speed wireless electronic shifting, hydraulic disc brakes, an $800 kit never more than one season old, and lots of gear from Rapha. All the carbon fiber and titanium accessories. (And don’t forget the Garmin Edge 5 million XL+ Plus, to show Strava where he rode!)...
That guy is legit, usually. Probably can hold his own at a spirited club ride or amateur race. But so can some guys on a 5 year old Specialized aluminum frame, with Tiagra group, a lock cable wrapped around the seat post and a Bell bell clamped to the handlebar...
And then there are the guys like you, my friend, who are just as capable athletically and get just as much enjoyment from jumping on their damn bike and riding, as often as possible.
Don’t ever stop Larry-ing! Those guys in the club have their thing covered, but who’s going to do, um... what you’re about? That’s right—no one else.
(I kind of imagine you after your ride calling to Peter in the apartment next door to check out the breast exam on channel 9.)
I’m not surprised at all that the club asked you to go somewhere else. As I started into this thread, I wondered why they’d insist you have a biking kit or jersey. (The helmet and waiver I understand.) As more of the story comes out, I realize it’s not a particular kind of shirt they’re looking for, they just don’t want you shirtless. And there may be valid reasons for that.
I think of the guy on a $15k Pinarello. He’s decked out with 12 speed wireless electronic shifting, hydraulic disc brakes, an $800 kit never more than one season old, and lots of gear from Rapha. All the carbon fiber and titanium accessories. (And don’t forget the Garmin Edge 5 million XL+ Plus, to show Strava where he rode!)...
That guy is legit, usually. Probably can hold his own at a spirited club ride or amateur race. But so can some guys on a 5 year old Specialized aluminum frame, with Tiagra group, a lock cable wrapped around the seat post and a Bell bell clamped to the handlebar...
And then there are the guys like you, my friend, who are just as capable athletically and get just as much enjoyment from jumping on their damn bike and riding, as often as possible.
Don’t ever stop Larry-ing! Those guys in the club have their thing covered, but who’s going to do, um... what you’re about? That’s right—no one else.
(I kind of imagine you after your ride calling to Peter in the apartment next door to check out the breast exam on channel 9.)
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If you really wanna irk the $15k Pinarello guy, rock up on a tall bike next time.
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That appears to be a tall fat bike. Do they sell those at the Big And Tall Men's Shop in the mall?
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I would be concerned about speed wobble on that.
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C'mon man, you know tenacity and persistence are a cyclist's best traits. Why let them get the satisfaction of never seeing you show up again? You should start with "hey guys, great ride last time" or something like that and do what you do. Please do this. It will pay off. Just let us know how it all unfolds.
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So, about the crash - what descent was it? What happened? Come into a turn too hot and slide out?
The thing about road bikes vs hybrids is that road bikes are built to be stable at speed, whereas hybrids are meant to be comfortable. You may be able to keep up with the ride on the flat on a hybrid - especially if you're drafting them - because that's just a question of legs and gears. The descent is where the road bike will be faster, because it's more stable.
The thing about road bikes vs hybrids is that road bikes are built to be stable at speed, whereas hybrids are meant to be comfortable. You may be able to keep up with the ride on the flat on a hybrid - especially if you're drafting them - because that's just a question of legs and gears. The descent is where the road bike will be faster, because it's more stable.
They slow roll between hills and I think would have dropped more than half of them but there are definitely some fast dudes. They only dropped me because as soon as the first person passed me I pulled over to the side and let everyone pass, but it was a small group that caught me at first. Also they yelled at me for passing them when they are literally going 12 MPH taking up the entire road, if you don't want me riding with you how the hell are you going to complain when cyclists have to cross the double yellow when passing. I only passed them because another cyclist went past them (forced into the wrong lane) and I decided to follow.
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Yeah, if you're low on the learning curve for descending, trying to follow an experienced group down Page Mill is a recipe for.... well, what you experienced. Go do it a few more times, but solo, at your own pace, not trying to keep up with anyone. Or climb up Old La Honda and go down 84, which is not as steep and also wider.
And remember to panic BEFORE the turn, so you brake too much then feel like a chicken rolling slowly through the turn, instead of coming in too hot, panicking, and grabbing handfuls of brake at the wrong time.
And remember to panic BEFORE the turn, so you brake too much then feel like a chicken rolling slowly through the turn, instead of coming in too hot, panicking, and grabbing handfuls of brake at the wrong time.
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Yeah, if you're low on the learning curve for descending, trying to follow an experienced group down Page Mill is a recipe for.... well, what you experienced. Go do it a few more times, but solo, at your own pace, not trying to keep up with anyone. Or climb up Old La Honda and go down 84, which is not as steep and also wider.
And remember to panic BEFORE the turn, so you brake too much then feel like a chicken rolling slowly through the turn, instead of coming in too hot, panicking, and grabbing handfuls of brake at the wrong time.
And remember to panic BEFORE the turn, so you brake too much then feel like a chicken rolling slowly through the turn, instead of coming in too hot, panicking, and grabbing handfuls of brake at the wrong time.
Thanks for that advice, ive heard that before.. I just need practice.
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LarrySellerz, you rock. I love how you’re the total anti-racerboi. You can ride with me anytime. In fact, I know of a weekly late night group ride that you’d fit right into.
I’m not surprised at all that the club asked you to go somewhere else. As I started into this thread, I wondered why they’d insist you have a biking kit or jersey. (The helmet and waiver I understand.) As more of the story comes out, I realize it’s not a particular kind of shirt they’re looking for, they just don’t want you shirtless. And there may be valid reasons for that.
I think of the guy on a $15k Pinarello. He’s decked out with 12 speed wireless electronic shifting, hydraulic disc brakes, an $800 kit never more than one season old, and lots of gear from Rapha. All the carbon fiber and titanium accessories. (And don’t forget the Garmin Edge 5 million XL+ Plus, to show Strava where he rode!)...
That guy is legit, usually. Probably can hold his own at a spirited club ride or amateur race. But so can some guys on a 5 year old Specialized aluminum frame, with Tiagra group, a lock cable wrapped around the seat post and a Bell bell clamped to the handlebar...
And then there are the guys like you, my friend, who are just as capable athletically and get just as much enjoyment from jumping on their damn bike and riding, as often as possible.
Don’t ever stop Larry-ing! Those guys in the club have their thing covered, but who’s going to do, um... what you’re about? That’s right—no one else.
(I kind of imagine you after your ride calling to Peter in the apartment next door to check out the breast exam on channel 9.)
I’m not surprised at all that the club asked you to go somewhere else. As I started into this thread, I wondered why they’d insist you have a biking kit or jersey. (The helmet and waiver I understand.) As more of the story comes out, I realize it’s not a particular kind of shirt they’re looking for, they just don’t want you shirtless. And there may be valid reasons for that.
I think of the guy on a $15k Pinarello. He’s decked out with 12 speed wireless electronic shifting, hydraulic disc brakes, an $800 kit never more than one season old, and lots of gear from Rapha. All the carbon fiber and titanium accessories. (And don’t forget the Garmin Edge 5 million XL+ Plus, to show Strava where he rode!)...
That guy is legit, usually. Probably can hold his own at a spirited club ride or amateur race. But so can some guys on a 5 year old Specialized aluminum frame, with Tiagra group, a lock cable wrapped around the seat post and a Bell bell clamped to the handlebar...
And then there are the guys like you, my friend, who are just as capable athletically and get just as much enjoyment from jumping on their damn bike and riding, as often as possible.
Don’t ever stop Larry-ing! Those guys in the club have their thing covered, but who’s going to do, um... what you’re about? That’s right—no one else.
(I kind of imagine you after your ride calling to Peter in the apartment next door to check out the breast exam on channel 9.)
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As stated already, clubs have insurance and all the ones i've ridden with require a helmet and ask you to sign a "sign in" sheet with your name and emergency contact info. Some require both front and rear lights.
If you don't agree to their rules, you are free not not ride with them or start your own club.
And tagging along anyway is rude.
I've been on solo rides when passed by a large group and I ask permission if I can join in. If they are on a training ride, then I drop off. It's called RESPECT.
Hope you recover from your crash and please.. wear a helmet.
If you don't agree to their rules, you are free not not ride with them or start your own club.
And tagging along anyway is rude.
I've been on solo rides when passed by a large group and I ask permission if I can join in. If they are on a training ride, then I drop off. It's called RESPECT.
Hope you recover from your crash and please.. wear a helmet.
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Thanks man, i'm living in the bay area so most of the cyclists are relatively rich professionals, I try to bring that working class energy to the table. Used to deliver food and we have our own distinct minimalist culture thats just as silly as the roadie lycra culture. A lot of people get a kick out of seeing me out there defying the conspicuous consumption that seems to me to be a relatively recent trend in cycling (could be wrong about that). Some people forget that for most people cycling is a poor mans transportation to get from point A to point B. I have nothing against the roadie look and think fat dudes on 15k bikes are killing it even if they aren't fast, hell I might join them if I actually get to the point where I feel my bike is holding me back
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Oh yeah, cycling opened up a lot of horizons. Not to mention triggering the development of ball bearings, pneumatic tyres, paved roads, and so on...
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Thanks man, i'm living in the bay area so most of the cyclists are relatively rich professionals, I try to bring that working class energy to the table. Used to deliver food and we have our own distinct minimalist culture thats just as silly as the roadie lycra culture. A lot of people get a kick out of seeing me out there defying the conspicuous consumption that seems to me to be a relatively recent trend in cycling (could be wrong about that). Some people forget that for most people cycling is a poor mans transportation to get from point A to point B. I have nothing against the roadie look and think fat dudes on 15k bikes are killing it even if they aren't fast, hell I might join them if I actually get to the point where I feel my bike is holding me back