Restoring original paint & logos
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Restoring original paint & logos
Picked up these two 1989 Specializeds. Really sunfaded with a milky finish. I’d like to restore some shine back to the original paint and logos. Heard about cutting compound but would that be too harsh/abrasive or is there a way to use it in a gentle way? Thanks in advance!
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How much of it is paint, and how much is decals?
I've heard that a good polishing compound can do wonders for oxidized paint on cars.
The fork should be easy enough to remove, and polish up as a test.
I've heard that a good polishing compound can do wonders for oxidized paint on cars.
The fork should be easy enough to remove, and polish up as a test.
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I've been using Meguiar's Scratch-X. It does an amazing job on paint that hsa lost its gloss, but I've heard you may want to go light over the decals, unless they're under clear coat.
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Meguiar's #7 works very well to restore dry powdery paint.
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Were those bikes mine, I would start with the less aggressive approach - Mother's Cleaning Wax, to see if that achieves the results that I seek. Polishing compound would be next on my list but only if there is a clear coat over the decals...
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I would try a wax based non abrasive approach as bike paint is very thin and decals can be damaged easily. The wax will bring shine where possible without too much damage , in my experience of dealing with old bikes.
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I restored a Specialized Hard Rock from about 1993 that didn't have much paint damage at all (it was a bike that's always been in this family), and I remember it as having a clear coat. That may be what is "milky" in your case. And if it's flaking off, then that's a double-whammy, because my bet is that you won't get it all to peel off. While the product suggestions above are good, for a finish that just needs "renewing" (removal of oxidized material), the results involving some-flaking, some-adhering clearcoat may be "uneven"; probably fine for a rider, so long as that level of patina is OK with you.
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Beautiful bikes, and totally deserving of some love. Did you see that era of Specialized MTN bikes getting some retro-love at Unbound Gravel this year? https://www.gravelcyclist.com/bicycl...lized-diverge/
Veterans and experts can pick the right level of aggressiveness and work their way down to a pretty finish. The rest of us need to work our way up, from gentle to more aggressive and then back down, and bikes are harder than cars because the decals are not all equally protected by the clearcoat. I think most vintage bike people in the US seem to be working with Meguiar's products, but your local auto parts store will be happy to show you the safest order of attack. Anything called a "compound" or "polish" should work by gently grinding into the surface of the paint, so work slow and excercise care around decals. Surface treatments like waxes or silicone finishes work by filling in the gaps, and really can work wonders on old paint without the danger of rubbing something away. Good luck with those great looking bikes.
Veterans and experts can pick the right level of aggressiveness and work their way down to a pretty finish. The rest of us need to work our way up, from gentle to more aggressive and then back down, and bikes are harder than cars because the decals are not all equally protected by the clearcoat. I think most vintage bike people in the US seem to be working with Meguiar's products, but your local auto parts store will be happy to show you the safest order of attack. Anything called a "compound" or "polish" should work by gently grinding into the surface of the paint, so work slow and excercise care around decals. Surface treatments like waxes or silicone finishes work by filling in the gaps, and really can work wonders on old paint without the danger of rubbing something away. Good luck with those great looking bikes.
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I would wipe it down with windex maybe, I would wipe it down with oil. I go nonabrasive first and work my way to wax, if that's not enough I'll use rubbing compound.
This was in dreary state at the time of acquisition. I did use rubbing compound on the Trek but it left white everywhere the clearcoat chipped, I used motor oil after the rubbing compound. Came out sharp!
This was in dreary state at the time of acquisition. I did use rubbing compound on the Trek but it left white everywhere the clearcoat chipped, I used motor oil after the rubbing compound. Came out sharp!
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Looks like the clear coat is shot. I'd remove what's left and re-clear it if that's the case.
Try using a nice microfiber cloth and a polishing compound like Meguiars Ultimate Polish or Mothers. I wouldnt worry too much about damaging the finish if you polish by hand. It's next to impossible to take off or damage the clear by hand polishing.
Try using a nice microfiber cloth and a polishing compound like Meguiars Ultimate Polish or Mothers. I wouldnt worry too much about damaging the finish if you polish by hand. It's next to impossible to take off or damage the clear by hand polishing.
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Looks like the clear coat is shot. I'd remove what's left and re-clear it if that's the case.
Try using a nice microfiber cloth and a polishing compound like Meguiars Ultimate Polish or Mothers. I wouldnt worry too much about damaging the finish if you polish by hand. It's next to impossible to take off or damage the clear by hand polishing.
Try using a nice microfiber cloth and a polishing compound like Meguiars Ultimate Polish or Mothers. I wouldnt worry too much about damaging the finish if you polish by hand. It's next to impossible to take off or damage the clear by hand polishing.
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I would wipe it down with windex maybe, I would wipe it down with oil. I go nonabrasive first and work my way to wax, if that's not enough I'll use rubbing compound.
This was in dreary state at the time of acquisition. I did use rubbing compound on the Trek but it left white everywhere the clearcoat chipped, I used motor oil after the rubbing compound. Came out sharp!
This was in dreary state at the time of acquisition. I did use rubbing compound on the Trek but it left white everywhere the clearcoat chipped, I used motor oil after the rubbing compound. Came out sharp!
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I’ve been thinking about reapplying clearcoat since it looks like it’s peeling off. If I apply a polish to remove the milky clearcoat, wouldn’t I have to remove the polish so I can apply new clearcoat. Don’t I want to have a clear basecoat surface to apply new clearcoat? I would think the polish will not allow the clearcoat to adhere over it.
As for removing polish just give the bike a good wash with warm soapy water then a good rinse. Allow to air dry in the sun or (while wearing gloves) wipe down with clean microfiber.
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Beautiful bikes, and totally deserving of some love. Did you see that era of Specialized MTN bikes getting some retro-love at Unbound Gravel this year? https://www.gravelcyclist.com/bicycl...lized-diverge/.
All this reminded me to get off my ass and start working on the Stumpy and RH I had sitting in my yard.
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The finest cutting compound I have used is Tamiya Polishing 'Compound', it is a liquid paste cutting compound designed for plastic scale model polishing. Absolutely incredible stuff, and much more delicate than the automotive alternative. It comes in three grades.
Should be available in your local hobby shop or eBay.
Should be available in your local hobby shop or eBay.
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I have spruced up quite a few bikes with faded paint. Here is what I do
strip everything off frame and fork
wipe everything with paint thinner or wd 40 to remove the heavy grease.
Wash with simple green and rinse well, making sure you have cleaned off ALL the grease and dirt
Rub out with 3m white polishing compound. this will remove embedded grease , light scratches, other contaminants like tar or latex paint.
clean with alcohol wearing rubber gloves to keep finger print oil off bike
set up frame for painting. I do a rotisserie with a dowel sttached to a table and the seat tube pushed onto the dowel
wipe down with tack cloth to remove any hair/ dust on metal
Spray frame with Rustoleum Automotive clear , using paint can warmed under hot water . Paint on warm day
As you spray - chain stays first, then seat stay, down tube, top tube, and lastly head tube, rotate the frame on the spit so it never stays in the same position
This will help keep the paint from running.
For best results paint in shade on warm/ hot day using full can of paint that is shaken 1 minute and warmed under water.
working on cold day with cold frame makes paint run much easies. using almost empty can also seems to increase runs. possibly the paint is thinner then.
Do not spray automotive clear on any paint that is not thoroughly cured, as in a few months old at least.
You will be surprised just how much better the paint will look after this treatment.
strip everything off frame and fork
wipe everything with paint thinner or wd 40 to remove the heavy grease.
Wash with simple green and rinse well, making sure you have cleaned off ALL the grease and dirt
Rub out with 3m white polishing compound. this will remove embedded grease , light scratches, other contaminants like tar or latex paint.
clean with alcohol wearing rubber gloves to keep finger print oil off bike
set up frame for painting. I do a rotisserie with a dowel sttached to a table and the seat tube pushed onto the dowel
wipe down with tack cloth to remove any hair/ dust on metal
Spray frame with Rustoleum Automotive clear , using paint can warmed under hot water . Paint on warm day
As you spray - chain stays first, then seat stay, down tube, top tube, and lastly head tube, rotate the frame on the spit so it never stays in the same position
This will help keep the paint from running.
For best results paint in shade on warm/ hot day using full can of paint that is shaken 1 minute and warmed under water.
working on cold day with cold frame makes paint run much easies. using almost empty can also seems to increase runs. possibly the paint is thinner then.
Do not spray automotive clear on any paint that is not thoroughly cured, as in a few months old at least.
You will be surprised just how much better the paint will look after this treatment.