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The Golden Boy's 1985 Trek Re-Rebuild!!!

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The Golden Boy's 1985 Trek Re-Rebuild!!!

Ladies and gentlemen; I think this is the second major rebuild of this bike since I got it around 10 years ago. This is the bike I've put the most miles on, the bike my wife jokingly refers to as "Best Friend Bike." I rode it pretty much as stock as I got it for several years and then t some point I redid the drivetrain to 6 speed Accushift with Command Shifters, and swapped stems and bars and everything. Around 5 years ago I rebuilt my 1985 Trek 720 with new brakes, wheels and a 10 speed hybrid Dura Ace/Ultegra/Suntour drivetrain and I LOVE it- so I decided to do the same thing to the 620. I'd been acquiring parts for a long time- this time my big secret plans were to go with aluminum Honjo fenders and a SON generator hub. Because I've ruined 2 sets of Velo Orange fenders and because I don't trust myself with the generator hub running wires, and because of time/energy constraints with work and family- I opted to have a bike shop do the work for me. I chose Revolution Cycles in Madison WI because I'd heard good stories about them (both as a company and about Jeff, the owner) and because they did a wheel build for me that I was really pleased with.

Short story long, right after we started this, COVID hit- then there were the global supply problems because of COVID, and then there were manpower problems, compatibility problems, me making decision problems and then money problems... It had been literally been YEARS since I'd seen my bike. (and I wasn't pushing this at all- 85% of the delays are on my end- Jeff and Revolution put up with me, rather than the other way around). Anyway, yesterday I finally go around to driving to Madison to pick up my bike. I think it turned out pretty effing stunning.

Here was a big chunk of the initial stash of stuff- some of it got used on my 720, and some hasn't been used yet:

620 Build Group by Dave The Golden Boy, on Flickr

Picking it up on a bright sunny Saturday
IMG_1716 by Dave The Golden Boy, on Flickr


I forgot to get closeups of this- but one of the other really neat little things that was done was the tail light from https://www.velolumino.com run by forum member southpawboston . I'll be adding pix of this shortly. Thanks Anton!

IMG_1717 by Dave The Golden Boy, on Flickr

EDIT: The Velo Lumino tail light!

IMG_1749 by Dave The Golden Boy, on Flickr


Front of the cockpit shot- gosh, where to start. Old Specialized branded dirt drop stem, Nitto B177 bars, cranberry leather Brooks bar tape, TRP RRL brake levers, Suntour Command shifters from Suntour Command indexed for Shimano 10 speed: Suntour Command indexed for Shimano 10 speed.. Sinewave charging port, Nitto rack, SR SP-11 pedals with King Cage toe cages and KKT straps, Avid Tri-Dangle cable yoke, Shimano XT M732 cantilever brakes and Schmidt Edelux light.
IMG_1721 by Dave The Golden Boy, on Flickr

Rear view showing the Velolumino tail light and the clean install of everything...
IMG_1723 by Dave The Golden Boy, on Flickr


Another view of the cockpit
IMG_1737 by Dave The Golden Boy, on Flickr


Front drivetrain pic- Dura Ace 7700 FD, Sun XCD crank with TA 46 and 30 rings. This is my first experience with the wide range double... we'll see how it goes.
IMG_1719 by Dave The Golden Boy, on Flickr


A close up of the drivetrain.
IMG_1730 by Dave The Golden Boy, on Flickr


The Dura Ace 7803 rear derailleur. ******g dominate.
IMG_1729 by Dave The Golden Boy, on Flickr
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This is one of the old cloth covered Brooks Cambium saddles. I've seen these get really chewed up- I've got one on another bike that I've ridden a lot- but have no wear. Call it a combination of swapping bikes a lot and not riding as much as some people.
And the Dura Ace Easton seat post.
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Phil Wood cassette hub with a SRAM 10 speed cassette. Also the Pacenti Brevet rims.
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And the SON Delux generator hub.

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Very nice!

What tires & tubes are you running with the Pacenti Brevet rims?
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Very nice!

What tires & tubes are you running with the Pacenti Brevet rims?
The tires are Rene Herse Bon Jon Pass tires... they "fit", but I think they might be a touch too tight.
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The tires are Rene Herse Bon Jon Pass tires... they "fit", but I think they might be a touch too tight.
tubeless or tubed?

Also, speaking of the post covid supply chain shortage world - have you checked the prices for a used Dura Ace 7803 RD lately?
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Did you have to bend the arms of the front rack towards the wheel?
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A smorgasbord of tasty delights - nice build!
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Originally Posted by masi61
tubeless or tubed?

Also, speaking of the post covid supply chain shortage world - have you checked the prices for a used Dura Ace 7803 RD lately?
They are tubed.

I haven't looked at prices lately- I made a point of getting a few when they were around. The one that's on this bike is one I got here- I saw it right after it was posted but thought I'd let someone else get one... a few days of questions and dibs and cancels- so I had to buy it at that point. I found the thread... $100. These and the Ultegra 6603 derailleurs seem like they're the last polished silver derailleurs Shimano is ever going to make. I suppose the Sun XCD derailleur would be a good choice for this bike- but I REALLY like the DA unit.
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Originally Posted by rgvg
Did you have to bend the arms of the front rack towards the wheel?
So it's interesting that most everything on this bike has been done by the shop. I don't really know how they did the rack/fender/light/wiring install. I'm usually putzing around with it, asking other people for help and advice. This time I plopped down a pile of parts and gave vague general directions and they went for it. I'm really picky about how I do everything- and I can't expect ANYONE to know how I want it... so there's a few things I'd have done differently- but I've changed nothing but the saddle height. I may have to swap to a smaller front tire, and change the way the front shifter is set up though.
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That is a lovely bike to look at.
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Beautiful job...I love it!
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Don't much care for touring bikes...but DAMN!! What a gorgeous bike! You done good!
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Well thought out, purposeful build, a lot to love there.
Glad to see"Best Friend Bike" back and on the road again.
Congrats, now get out and enjoy it !
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Pix of the Velo Lumino tail light!

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What a fine bike. Looks like you opened up a can of awesome and just poured it all over that thing! A well composed build.
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What a vision of beauty... and love the matching blue rack!
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Trek rebuild.

Great looking build @The Golden Boy. Have you had a chance to test the 46/28 setup yet? I’m curious as I have the parts on hand to do the same. Frame is TBD but either 74 Raleigh International or early 80’s Holdsworth Special.

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Excellent build! I am going to do some touring on my 85 720 this year but it won't look as good as yours!
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Great looking build @The Golden Boy. Have you had a chance to test the 46/28 setup yet? I’m curious as I have the parts on hand to do the same. Frame is TBD but either 74 Raleigh International or early 80’s Holdsworth Special.

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I lied- sorry about that- it's 46/30. I'll correct that above. I was actually going to be starting a thread about this.

I'm assuming I need to get used to this compared to triple driving. So far, I'm not a fan. It's WAY too easy to get cross chained. It seems like there's a REALLY big jump between rings. I've thrown the chain 4 times (of course that could be a setup issue that I need to work on).

There's too much thinking involved in this- I'm not sure how the compact double is "better" aside from saving a few ounces.
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I lied- sorry about that- it's 46/30. I'll correct that above. I was actually going to be starting a thread about this.

I'm assuming I need to get used to this compared to triple driving. So far, I'm not a fan. It's WAY too easy to get cross chained. It seems like there's a REALLY big jump between rings. I've thrown the chain 4 times (of course that could be a setup issue that I need to work on).

There's too much thinking involved in this- I'm not sure how the compact double is "better" aside from saving a few ounces.
I've run that crank with 26/46 and you do need to be careful but it can work well. The key to two by for me is having a very wide range cassette, 12-34 or so and using the 26 as a granny only. Frankly if I'm running a freewheel with a 14 small cog, 46 works for a touring chainring. If I am running a cassette with a 12 I go with 40 or 42 for the big chainrings. 40-26 is an easier shift.
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I've run that crank with 26/46 and you do need to be careful but it can work well. The key to two by for me is having a very wide range cassette, 12-34 or so and using the 26 as a granny only. Frankly if I'm running a freewheel with a 14 small cog, 46 works for a touring chainring. If I am running a cassette with a 12 I go with 40 or 42 for the big chainrings. 40-26 is an easier shift.
I'm not as strong of a rider as I was even a few years ago- My big rings are 48s and 50s- I could totally do a 46 and probably not notice the difference. With a 5 speed I totally make use of half step gearing- if it's 6 or more I use the middle ring and use the 28 as a bailout and the big ring as 'overdrive.'

I think the issue here, for me, is the 46 is too big to be that 'in the middle AND big' and the 30 is too small to be 'in the middle AND bailout.'

I really haven't done a lot of riding on this yet- It's pretty, but I've already taken other bikes out instead of this one...
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I'm not as strong of a rider as I was even a few years ago- My big rings are 48s and 50s- I could totally do a 46 and probably not notice the difference. With a 5 speed I totally make use of half step gearing- if it's 6 or more I use the middle ring and use the 28 as a bailout and the big ring as 'overdrive.'

I think the issue here, for me, is the 46 is too big to be that 'in the middle AND big' and the 30 is too small to be 'in the middle AND bailout.'

I really haven't done a lot of riding on this yet- It's pretty, but I've already taken other bikes out instead of this one...
It's too cool not to be ridden. You could do three rings on that crank. The bolt set is at VO.
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It's too cool not to be ridden. You could do three rings on that crank. The bolt set is at VO.

I'm going to keep working at it- Maybe it'll grow on me. This crankset was an intentional step out of my comfort zone.

Both bolt sets come with the crank- but otherwise, that's buying a new granny and a new middle ring- and then a new BB. That's TA rings and Phil BB.

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Originally Posted by The Golden Boy
I'm going to keep working at it- Maybe it'll grow on me. This crankset was an intentional step out of my comfort zone.

Both bolt sets come with the crank- but otherwise, that's buying a new granny and a new middle ring- and then a new BB. That's TA rings and Phil BB.

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Really Neat. My '85 rode so wonderfully with most everything O.G. plus a XT rear derailleur. It was my first 1/2 step + granny and boy did I love that set up. I never fathomed that a 5 speed could do so much with so little. You probably need to go forward with the rings and BB. (When you get your tires decided, pull the rear fender in just a tad)
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