Shoes for caged pedals?
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Dang it, I just swung by my local REI today, didn't see anything sitting out on clearance. They were actually lacking in bike shoes in general. I'm a 42/43, nothing left in my size for that one.
DO see that there is a Merrell store down the road from me, though, may take a ride over there this weekend.
DO see that there is a Merrell store down the road from me, though, may take a ride over there this weekend.
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Does anyone have any recommendations for decent shoes to use with metal pedals with toe cages? I have been upping my riding in preparation of a tour next month, and have noticed an increase of numbness in the ball of my left foot where it is contacting the pedal. I think it is due to wearing pretty soft soled shoes that don't distribute the load very well over the entire front of the foot, as my running shoes with a thicker, foamier sole seem to cause it less than my indoor soccer shoes with a thinner, gummier sole that I normally used for riding.
I am not interested in clip-in (clipless? This terminology confuses me!) solutions. I'll be spending a week and a half in Europe, where the biking is only the method of transportation, not the sole focus, there will be considerable time off the bike walking on breaks and such. I have no interest in continually changing shoes or wasting space in limited carry-on on a second pair. Plus, I already have the pedals, have already bought new leather straps, and as the bike is C&V they go for the all important "looks" factor...
I am not interested in clip-in (clipless? This terminology confuses me!) solutions. I'll be spending a week and a half in Europe, where the biking is only the method of transportation, not the sole focus, there will be considerable time off the bike walking on breaks and such. I have no interest in continually changing shoes or wasting space in limited carry-on on a second pair. Plus, I already have the pedals, have already bought new leather straps, and as the bike is C&V they go for the all important "looks" factor...
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I googled classic cycling shoes:
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I would love to get my hands on a pair of Dromarti's... but I don't use clipless pedals.
A few years ago I came across these Cycleur de luxe spike but they don't seem to make them anymore.
Otherwise it might be a good idea to try some approach shoes. Those are often stiffer than regular hiking shoes because they need to be comfortable while scrambling over rocks and have the added protection of a higher rubber bumper. Meaning they won't get damaged easily in cages.
REI has a number of different models.
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I would love to get my hands on a pair of Dromarti's... but I don't use clipless pedals.
A few years ago I came across these Cycleur de luxe spike but they don't seem to make them anymore.
Otherwise it might be a good idea to try some approach shoes. Those are often stiffer than regular hiking shoes because they need to be comfortable while scrambling over rocks and have the added protection of a higher rubber bumper. Meaning they won't get damaged easily in cages.
REI has a number of different models.
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A few years ago I came across these Cycleur de luxe spike but they don't seem to make them anymore.
Those other two look beautiful, but I like doing things on a budget, and I don't know that $300 shoes for my $85 restoration-in-progress tourer is the best allocation of resources
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Even if I can get shoes into a toe clip, they are too low at the front to fit my shoes comfortably. TMy foot fits in, but the toe clip presses down on the toe and causes discomfort after a few hours of riding. So I have learned to adjust them-- that is, bend the steel to move the top of the clip higher up. You have to straighten the existing bend and add a new bend a little higher. These things are made of spring steel, and they are not easy to bend, but when I get it right, it's a big improvement.
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A podiatrist gave me this idea and it has worked well for me. Get a piece of thick felt with an adhesive backing and cut it to the shape of the front half of your shoe. Cut out an area roughly the size and location of the ball of your foot. Slip the felt into whatever shoes you're wearing. The felt will support the area around the ball of your foot and put less pressure on the ball itself.
I use very cheap Walmart sneakers on flat pedals with half clips from VO, with very good results.
I use very cheap Walmart sneakers on flat pedals with half clips from VO, with very good results.
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But for touring I want SPD on one side, and platform on the other side so that I can wear my campsite (normal, non-biking) shoes if I want to ride to the grocery store or restaurant in the evening.
Around home, some of my bikes have pedals that are SPD both sides, some bikes have my touring pedals with one side SPD and one side platform.
I have several good pairs of platform pedals in storage that I used years ago with toe clips.
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When I started touring I went to the library (big building with these old things called books) and read all about it. In some books they suggested using hiking boots for long tours as they provided foot support. I didn't do that but saw how cycling shoes resembled soccer shoes without the cleats and proceeded to file off the plastic cleats on a pair. Those were my first dedicated cycling shoes. I was a young poor country bumpkin then (now I'm an old poor country bumpkin). Funny as that sounds, I put a lot of happy miles on those old shoes and really felt free. Later, I found an actual pair of hard soled touring shoes (no bottom cleats) that looked like sneakers and I worn those out but I could just have easily gone the plywood route.
These days I just use modern low profile hiking shoes that have a stiff sole. They allow me to use the same shoe to ride and explore the landscape.
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Figured I'd leave this here for anyone looking at this in the future, there is a classic shoe thread going in C&V that I lifted it from. If I had 4-6 weeks to wait, I'd probably jump on it, 75GBP for made-to-order biking shoes that fit almost exactly my criteria.
Arturo Cycle Shoe | Rufflander Safety Boots from William Lennon & Co Ltd
Arturo Cycle Shoe | Rufflander Safety Boots from William Lennon & Co Ltd
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I got a pair of Carnac carlit shoes I've not used out of the house yet, (may re sell) and a pair of SiDi touring shoes I have used ,
got them 15 years ago , 20 years ago I saw shoes if that sort in bike shops in Dublin Ireland, when I Started my tour there.
The Retrogrouch: Classic Cycling Shoes
got them 15 years ago , 20 years ago I saw shoes if that sort in bike shops in Dublin Ireland, when I Started my tour there.
The Retrogrouch: Classic Cycling Shoes
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Figured I'd leave this here for anyone looking at this in the future, there is a classic shoe thread going in C&V that I lifted it from. If I had 4-6 weeks to wait, I'd probably jump on it, 75GBP for made-to-order biking shoes that fit almost exactly my criteria.
Arturo Cycle Shoe | Rufflander Safety Boots from William Lennon & Co Ltd
Arturo Cycle Shoe | Rufflander Safety Boots from William Lennon & Co Ltd
Wow. Three simultaneous shoe threads...
I've been looking at those Arturo shoes too. Good price and I like the looks. I was all set to order some then I realized they are probably not terribly well suited for socal weather. Anyone try the Chrome Truks? Considering I've been riding in Vans lately those are probably about the same but better, with the bonus of an SPD option. The Giro Rumbles seem a bit overdesigned and corporate for my taste.
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I'm curious, though, what about socal weather do you think they'd not be well suited for? Leather too hot?
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Still, I like those Arturos. Please review if you do get some.
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Dang it, I just swung by my local REI today, didn't see anything sitting out on clearance. They were actually lacking in bike shoes in general. I'm a 42/43, nothing left in my size for that one.
DO see that there is a Merrell store down the road from me, though, may take a ride over there this weekend.
DO see that there is a Merrell store down the road from me, though, may take a ride over there this weekend.
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After way too much deliberation, I ordered some Chrome Truks. I was a bit hesitant initially since they are little too California dude for my taste -- but after all that is what I am. I'll post a review when I get them.
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I understand the deliberation. I absolutely hate shoe shopping online, but I'm not liking what I am finding locally. As I mentioned above, I even drove across the border last time I bought ice skates, just to try them on and buy them in person over buying online what I couldn't find in stock by me.
Footware is one thing I just don't mind spending time and money on getting right.
Footware is one thing I just don't mind spending time and money on getting right.
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Giro Junction MTB Shoes - 2015 Performance Exclusive
That's the closest to my wants I've found so far locally, albeit my local Performance Bike does not have it in my size.
That's the closest to my wants I've found so far locally, albeit my local Performance Bike does not have it in my size.
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I'm curious why you don't like/want a clipess setup? In my opinion it's far superior to any other option. I've never been stuck in clipless, twice in slotted cleats at a stopsign. With street shoes I it's common enough for me topull out of the toeclips even worse on platform pedals. Clipless is the best.
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you could try ebay, might get a lucky hit on cannondale touring shoes.
i've got a pair of this style mtb shoes. not too heavy
for touring. fine for walking.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Cannondale-R...IAAOSwDuJWz2Pp
had a pair of these long, long ago! steel shank. worn with
knee socks, cotton shorts, and burt reynolds porn moustache.
Cannondale Touring Cycling Shoes Womens Vintage for Casual Bike Riding Dark Blue | eBay
i've got a pair of this style mtb shoes. not too heavy
for touring. fine for walking.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Cannondale-R...IAAOSwDuJWz2Pp
had a pair of these long, long ago! steel shank. worn with
knee socks, cotton shorts, and burt reynolds porn moustache.
Cannondale Touring Cycling Shoes Womens Vintage for Casual Bike Riding Dark Blue | eBay
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I'm curious why you don't like/want a clipess setup? In my opinion it's far superior to any other option. I've never been stuck in clipless, twice in slotted cleats at a stopsign. With street shoes I it's common enough for me topull out of the toeclips even worse on platform pedals. Clipless is the best.
I'm doing a bike tour from Brussels to Amsterdam, where the biking is just one part of the vacation, not the only focus. Days range from 35-60 miles at a leisurely pace, so the amount of time I'll be off the bike will be far more than the amount I am on it. I don't want to carry multiple pairs of shoes with my limited carry on space, and even a MTB cleat is going to clickity-clack on cobblestone streets. I want my single pair of shoes to have a nicer look to them than something that screams sport equipment. Preferably, I find a pair of street shoes with suitably firm enough soles that my problem is resolved (honestly thinking about giving one of my older leather soled toe cap shoes a shot this weekend), if not I'll go to one of the dedicated bike options.
I don't generally move to a new system until something isn't working for me on my old way, the only reason I even have toeclips now is that they came on the bike and I figured I'd give them a shot. Haven't had a single problem on platform pedals, or felt they have been holding me back, in all the biking I have done since getting back into it in the last two year. By this summer, I'll have six bikes, and I don't really want to spend the money to replace pedals on all of them, non-cleated shoes can be used on any of them.
Plus, the all important factor: caged pedals just look SO much better on a 1982 Miyata 610 than clipless
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i found these skater style shoes with solid bottom and
spd capability (if you cut a hole in the bottom) online
here in china.
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm...cket=11#detail
should be good for walking, and would look like
normal shoes around town.
i shall buy a pair and report back.
no reason to switch to clipless if you're not racing, and
you're comfortable with platforms.
i've been touring with flat pedals for years. no intention of
switching.
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on second thought, after reviewing the online reviews, these dzr
urban shoes (minna and dice) probably won't make good long
distance touring shoes. too bad....only 10 bucks a pair....
https://www.bikeinreview.com/2013/12/...g-shoe-review/
spd capability (if you cut a hole in the bottom) online
here in china.
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm...cket=11#detail
should be good for walking, and would look like
normal shoes around town.
i shall buy a pair and report back.
no reason to switch to clipless if you're not racing, and
you're comfortable with platforms.
i've been touring with flat pedals for years. no intention of
switching.
**************
on second thought, after reviewing the online reviews, these dzr
urban shoes (minna and dice) probably won't make good long
distance touring shoes. too bad....only 10 bucks a pair....
https://www.bikeinreview.com/2013/12/...g-shoe-review/
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I don't generally move to a new system until something isn't working for me on my old way, the only reason I even have toeclips (I think you meant 'clipless') now is that they came on the bike and I figured I'd give them a shot. Haven't had a single problem on platform pedals, or felt they have been holding me back, in all the biking I have done since getting back into it in the last two year.
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I'm curious why you don't like/want a clipess setup? In my opinion it's far superior to any other option. I've never been stuck in clipless, twice in slotted cleats at a stopsign. With street shoes I it's common enough for me topull out of the toeclips even worse on platform pedals. Clipless is the best.
The Peugeot's original Stronglight crank has survived this long without being molested, and I don't want to retap the arms. If French threaded SPD pedals existed, I'd think about putting some on, but they don't.
I have a new Mercian touring bike on order which will get SPD pedals most likely, unless there is some compelling reason to put SPD-SL or Look on there instead.
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i found these skater style shoes with solid bottom and
spd capability (if you cut a hole in the bottom) online
here in china.
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm...cket=11#detail
should be good for walking, and would look like
normal shoes around town.
i shall buy a pair and report back.
spd capability (if you cut a hole in the bottom) online
here in china.
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm...cket=11#detail
should be good for walking, and would look like
normal shoes around town.
i shall buy a pair and report back.
I thought about trying to get a pair in an actual store, but the only people that have them are REI which is a bit of a drive for me, and they didn't have the color I want.
BTW, as a hiker and occasional jogger, I do have various hiking boots/shoes and running shoes. They are terrible for bike pedals. The lugged soles are impossible to get in and out.
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