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Old 08-29-21, 05:42 AM
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Road bicycles with integrated frame storage

Other than the Domane, what other road bicycles have an integrated frame storage feature?
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Old 08-30-21, 08:42 AM
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Speicalized has SWAT tech on some MTB and Endurance bikes. Roubaix is a road model with storage.
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Old 08-30-21, 10:11 AM
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I'm surprised more bikes don't feature some kind of built-in concealed flat repair kit. Manufacturers go through all this effort to aero shape and conceal cables, etc and then customers have to strap a bag full of stuff to the bike every time they ride, just so they can fix a flat tire.

It's like having to strap a spare tire to the rear bumper of your sports car.
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Originally Posted by mstateglfr
Speicalized has SWAT tech on some MTB and Endurance bikes. Roubaix is a road model with storage.
Specialized dropped the frame-mounted SWAT box for the Roubaix beginning with the latest frameset in 2020. At that point the Diverge gravel bike gained internal frame storage, but not the Roubaix.
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Most modern "nicer" triathlon (not time trial, as it's not legal) bikes have integrated hydration and/or storage. Sometimes integrated in the frame, sometimes a removable front fairing, sometimes a bolt on fairing inside the triangle, sometimes a behind the seat tube faired storage box or hydration unit.

The fact that triathlons dictate that you must be self sufficient outside of stopping at aid stations for hydration/nutrition and you can't have a "team car" or would lose a crap ton of time stopping at a gas station or to stop and unpack your jersey or touring bag...........dictates the tech follows the need.

For road, pros have team cars and roadside feeds. They also use team tactics and the peloton to shield/rest. You can't draft in triathlon. For most recreational riding, there isn't a real need to be both super aero and ergonomic for on-bike feeding and maintenance. So bikes are made with the assumption you will attach separately what you need.

If you really want something more integrated........either ride a newer triathlon bike as-is OR convert one to a drop-bar setup. Some of the newer ones with disc brakes can take up to 30mm or even 32mm tires.
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Originally Posted by msu2001la
I'm surprised more bikes don't feature some kind of built-in concealed flat repair kit. Manufacturers go through all this effort to aero shape and conceal cables, etc and then customers have to strap a bag full of stuff to the bike every time they ride, just so they can fix a flat tire.

It's like having to strap a spare tire to the rear bumper of your sports car.
I agree. I'd rather use a Quick Mount seat bag for other personal needs. The integrated frame storage would def allow for it. Less chances in losing tools & a tube if a quick thief were to snatch the bag.
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The new Cube Agree C:62 has a removable aero storage box that integrates with the frame. It's not as neat as the hidden Domane storage, but looks quite effective. Certainly nicer than a saddle bag.

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I thought the storage area on my Domane was kind of a gimmick until I put a tube, co2 inflator and levers in it. Its really slick. I hate bags etc or anything that messes up the lines of a bike. I usually ride with a Camelback lobo with the hydration pouch removed. to increase the storage. I can carry a small pump and enough tools to address most needs. On the Domane I can go with without it.
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PeteHski Not for me, but it may be for others. I like the integrated hidden frame storage design.
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Originally Posted by Troul
PeteHski Not for me, but it may be for others. I like the integrated hidden frame storage design.
I kind of agree, but fully integrated solutions like the Domane can't be that great for frame efficiency. Effectively having a huge cutout in the middle of the downtube is a compromise too far for me. The mtb version of this has been reported to rattle a bit too, which would annoy me massively. I run a tiny saddle bag with just a tube and multi-tool and everything else goes in my jersey pockets. I see Cube's solution as a step up from the usual saddle bag without compromising the main triangle design!
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Originally Posted by PeteHski
I kind of agree, but fully integrated solutions like the Domane can't be that great for frame efficiency.
It sure doesn't feel like it effects the frame at all to me !!nI would hope in their desire to make good product (that also comes with a great warranty etc.) they would have tested it it half to death. With a full water bottle the latched door is rock solid. Hopefully I wont need to make a warranty claim but for a frame that has a lifetime warranty for the original owner (carbon wheels too !! ) I think the integrity of the frame is OK.
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Old 09-01-21, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Rdmonster69
It sure doesn't feel like it effects the frame at all to me !!nI would hope in their desire to make good product (that also comes with a great warranty etc.) they would have tested it it half to death. With a full water bottle the latched door is rock solid. Hopefully I wont need to make a warranty claim but for a frame that has a lifetime warranty for the original owner (carbon wheels too !! ) I think the integrity of the frame is OK.
I'm sure the frame is just fine. But it is a design compromise to incorporate such a feature into the frame. Whether or not it is a worthwhile compromise depends entirely on how much use you make of the integral storage. For me personally it seems over-engineered for not that much benefit and so I'm not surprised that other frames don't have this feature. For example I can't imagine an ultra-lightweight frame like the Specialized Aethos having a huge hole in the middle of the downtube. If it did, they would either have to beef it up or accept less torsional rigidity. Everything is a compromise.
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I’m a few years when everything is tubeless, every mfg will have storage space for tubes, levers, a patch kit, and CO2.

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Originally Posted by msu2001la
I'm surprised more bikes don't feature some kind of built-in concealed flat repair kit. Manufacturers go through all this effort to aero shape and conceal cables, etc and then customers have to strap a bag full of stuff to the bike every time they ride, just so they can fix a flat tire.

It's like having to strap a spare tire to the rear bumper of your sports car.
And what is wrong with that? 1962 Morgan (UK)


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Originally Posted by 70sSanO
I’m a few years when everything is tubeless, every mfg will have storage space for tubes, levers, a patch kit, and CO2.

John
how about a quick clip mount for the brushless drill & proprietary spec'd drill bit for using a schrader type tube?
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Seems like it would be super annoying on a rough road...

I do not grok bag hate.

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At some point, a certain level of trust has to be given to engineers. This is where I am willing to give it my trust with a known brand with community backing. Would I go straight to a BSO that has an IFS compartment? Not with one of my used up nine lives, but you do you I suppose.

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Seems like it would be super annoying on a rough road...
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I'd give it a try if it was made available to a more "averaged" priced bicycle.
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I sorta like the look of a folded tubular tire behind my saddle.
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I sorta like the look of a folded tubular tire behind my saddle.
One of you guys posted pic of ancient TdF riders wearing their spare tires like a commando wearing his 7.62 ammo belts.

I thought “Beast Mode!”
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Originally Posted by ShannonM
Seems like it would be super annoying on a rough road...

I do not grok bag hate.

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No noise from my Domane SL6. I also fit a Park patch kit below the burrito and in front of the tool holder. I see in the future alternate tool holders. Oh the only rattle I’ve had is from the broken rear drive side spoke with the nipple bouncing around in the rim. It is heavier then it should be.
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Originally Posted by Troul
I agree. I'd rather use a Quick Mount seat bag for other personal needs. The integrated frame storage would def allow for it. Less chances in losing tools & a tube if a quick thief were to snatch the bag.
Who needs a thief? I've got more bikes than garmin mounts and I only use it to record what I did, not to monitor, depending on the bike so I tossed it in my seat pack for a ride on a bike with no mount. Had a great ride, thought I'd maybe pulled a personal best so I pulled it from the pack to stop it and save, tossed the bike in the rack and got home to discover I'd forgotten to shut the bag. Left a tube, levers, CO2 pump and 2 cartridges, a patch kit and 2 bucks on the expressway.
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I wish all frames had the mount for a bolt on top tube bag. Strap on ones suck, they flop over to the side.
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Personal preference for storage, but internal storage keeps honest people honest & it's nice having things stowed out of the elements.
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Originally Posted by Troul
Personal preference for storage, but internal storage keeps honest people honest & it's nice having things stowed out of the elements.
Even with the compartment on my Domane I can't give up my (very small) backpack. The fact that I essentially have doubled up on whats in the storage makes it funny to me. I also carry a small pump in it which was super handy when I helped a fellow rider out last week.

I'm planning on a longer ride tomorrow. The pack will allow an energy bar, some gels and hydration tabs as well as the stuff I normally carry. As well as a flat kit in the compartment. I hate any kind of a bag on my bike ...weird but thats me .
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Originally Posted by Rdmonster69
I hate any kind of a bag on my bike ...weird but thats me .
Me too. I just about tolerate a small saddle bag (and I mean small, just enough to squeeze in a tube and multi-tool). Everything else goes in my jersey pockets. I've also taken to wearing Rapha Cargo bibs on century rides, which have great additional storage for bars, gels etc.
But I'm not totally sold on integrated frame storage due to its implications for frame design as I mentioned earlier in the thread. If it was there I would use it though for sure.
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