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Old 11-23-22, 12:08 PM
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Good frame gone bad

(I also posted some pics in the Wacky CL thread)

I picked up this heap yesterday to strip its D-A bits and what was done to the frame is one of the sketchiest things Iíve ever seen.

The story is that the owner hit a curb hard and destroyed the front wheel and damaged the frame. Darn shame because it was a very nice frame. The owner ďfixedĒ the frame and rode it for another 2 years.

Iím sure gugie and bulgie will have something to say about this.

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Top tube cut out and aluminum sleeve inserted. Small screws on bottom of tube to hold sleeve in place. Aesthetics were lacking so it was wrapped in red duct tape

I havenít taken this apart yet but looking at it, the bottom tube was cut and another sleeve inserted and various screws and outer sleeve attached.

Reynolds 753. Fancy!

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Old 11-23-22, 12:31 PM
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Am I in time to be the first one to say that'll buff right out?
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Old 11-23-22, 12:43 PM
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I applaud the PO for trying and making the effort. Not many would have, I think.
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Old 11-23-22, 12:44 PM
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Wow yeah, an SBDU frame, that is unfortunate! A real memento mori.

Was the fork no longer original, either?
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Old 11-23-22, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by RustyJames View Post


I haven’t taken this apart yet but looking at it, the bottom tube was cut and another sleeve inserted and various screws and outer sleeve attached.
That sleeve looks suspiciously like Waterous Pacer fire hydrant extension coupling halves seen in the lower left here.

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Old 11-23-22, 01:03 PM
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Seems reasonable
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Old 11-23-22, 01:09 PM
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You'd never be able to do that with carbon.
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Old 11-23-22, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy_K View Post
Am I in time to be the first one to say that'll buff right out?
🙂

Originally Posted by heidelbergensis View Post
Wow yeah, an SBDU frame, that is unfortunate! A real memento mori.

Was the fork no longer original, either?
Fork is original AND not bent!

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That sleeve looks suspiciously like Waterous Pacer fire hydrant extension coupling halves seen in the lower left here.

You may be correct!
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Old 11-23-22, 01:40 PM
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That frame's got a few more seasons left in it...
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Old 11-23-22, 01:59 PM
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Kind of like a Hi-E Cosmopolitan.
but not.
creativity misplaced
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Must have really liked that bike. Nicely fitted to the lugs! Points for sourcing red duct tape!
Made in England for RCCA, sold as a frame set. Curious, what’s the serial number format?
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Don't throw it away!

That frame can be repaired.

Normally the cost of a new HT/TT/DT and repaint is not worth it, but maybe for this frame?

Especially don't throw it away if it's old enough to be metric-sized tubes (28.0 DT, 26.0 TT). Those tubes are worth something as replacement spares for other 753 frames. Metric 753 raw tubes are practically rocking-horse droppings.

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Fork is original AND not bent!

Amazing - another piece of this bike that can be saved!

I don't know, the frame straddles the edge of the "specialness" scale that would justify paying to have the DT and TT replaced, IMHO, without having a personal connection to it.

Love SBDU frames though - maybe someone else will feel otherwise?
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Originally Posted by bulgie View Post
That frame can be repaired.

Normally the cost of a new HT/TT/DT and repaint is not worth it, but maybe for this frame?

Especially don't throw it away if it's old enough to be metric-sized tubes (28.0 DT, 26.0 TT). Those tubes are worth something as replacement spares for other 753 frames. Metric 753 raw tubes are practically rocking-horse droppings.

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Iíll measure when I get home tonight and report back. My casual researching suggests this is circa 1984-1985. Iíll also post S/N. The steerer and BB shell are stamped ď60Ē. Assuming that is the frame size? (Guess Iíll measure that too)
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Old 11-23-22, 02:58 PM
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I read THIS and it puts 753 on a mythical level. Good thing I havenít binned this thing.
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Seeing that this bodge saved* a 753 SBDU for this long...it was a good bodge indeed.

-Kurt

*presumably. I'm not that familiar with repairs relating to frames assembled with heat treated tubing as opposed to classic 531 and the like.
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Just wanted to take a moment to give a shout out to all the engineers out there.

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Originally Posted by BFisher View Post
You'd never be able to do that with carbon.
You can.
I bought a LOOK where the previous owner had repaired the snapped fork blade and separated bb shell with wooden dowels, epoxy and tape and rode it as a commuter for 2 years




pure craftsmanship
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Originally Posted by P!N20 View Post
Just wanted to take a moment to give a shout out to all the engineers out there.
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It can live on as a break away/folder.
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Old 11-23-22, 06:52 PM
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Just need to do the same on the downtube, add a couple of mtb seat post quick releases, and you’d have a telescoping adjustable race bike.
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Originally Posted by RustyJames View Post

The story is that the owner hit a curb hard and destroyed the front wheel and damaged the frame.
And yet the fork was undamaged? 🤔🙄

I think I'd disassemble the whole thing, and see if he left any drugs inside that thing. 😁😉
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Old 11-23-22, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by stardognine View Post
And yet the fork was undamaged? 🤔🙄
**caveat to my statement about the fork. I only gauged it with my eyeball and the fact that the front wheel removed easily. Maybe it was damaged and straightened professionally and the bill caused the owner to fix the remainder at home. How hard could it be!!??
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Originally Posted by Soody View Post
You can.
I bought a LOOK where the previous owner had repaired the snapped fork blade and separated bb shell with wooden dowels, epoxy and tape and rode it as a commuter for 2 years

pure craftsmanship
Ha! Now I've seen it all.

Though, that may be glued, it ain't screwed.

Or is it...?
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