unterhausen

As long as we're complaining about zwift, I have to say that I don't understand why they don't let you (without a hack or a group ride) choose from more worlds on zwift. Of course, the alternate platforms don't have as many routes. But there are some worlds on zwift that annoy me. Like Innsbruck, Richmond, and New York. I'm not a fan of Yorkshire either. It's a good thing that there are so many routes on watopia

rccardr 

Have tried Zwift several times and keep going back to the TACX Trainer app. Real rides in real places, not video game or cartoon graphics.
Not an ERG type ride, the resistance changes based on whether you are riding up or down. So yeah, you shift just like in real life.
The entire elevation graphic for the whole ride is in front of you. Solid cadence, power, callrie burned, HR displays.
Only downside to me is tha5 there’s no gamification to it. But if you ride mostly solo anyway,it’s a gas.

Bmach

I don’t think it was mentioned but Bkool is another one.

tempocyclist

Originally it was to concentrate online riders onto one or two worlds so they were well populated. The big draw of Zwift is community and riding with other people around. Having riders spread across all the worlds at once would dilute this.

That was Zwift's reasoning anyway.

spelger

there are enough riders to fill every world. even when i used the hack i would find other riders, not much but they were there. if all worlds were available i am pretty sure none would be a no mans land.

unterhausen

I can't imagine they would have a shortage of riders. If someone wants to ride with other people they just have to go to the volcano

msu2001la

I always assumed they limit the worlds for some IT reason, like limiting their server loads. I don't really know how this works though, so maybe that doesn't make sense.

unterhausen

I suspect it's because they don't feel like investing in the programming effort to allow it. Obviously they can handle the worlds being used, they are all being used every day. Unless it's Yorkshire, which nobody would chose on their own.

msu2001la

I'm vaguely familiar with Zwift Power and have an account, but have never heard of Zwift Power Live. Is this another app or a website that you run while on Zwift? Running another app/screen isn't a very good solution for me - I already have to run two Zwift apps at the same time just to get the game to work (the main app on Apple TV, and the companion App on my phone). I don't really want to run a 3rd device and flipping between two apps on my phone to see this info sounds a lot more annoying than just having it on the main game screen.

I'm not sure why you're being snarky about this, but I found this setting confusing when I first started using Zwift and I've read multiple threads here and elsewhere that make it clear I'm not alone. It seems obvious that Zwift should come up with a better solution.

Zwift is not free, so expecting features and updates (especially to known issues) shouldn't be seen as unreasonable.

unterhausen

I need to try zwift power. I guess I need a bigger monitor.
The trainer difficulty setting name makes no sense, I recently asked about it because I'm confused about it most of the time. I think they should name it, "do you like to shift?" Or maybe "trainer realism"

La Tortue

"Live" is a selection on Zwift power. If you have the race selected showing the roster in the banner you will have an option to go live. Lots of people use a second monitor to track but the easy way is to run zwift in windows and have the zwift power live on another tab behind Zwift. Doing the same for your Discord and you are set. If you use the discord overlay the avatars of your team will show on your Zwift screen and tell you who is online and when they are talking. Extremely useful so you don't talk on top of your teammates. Going to ZP live is one click to and one click back. Simple, fast, and effective. Once you master all of this add your music playlist to the party in another hidden tab. Set your Discord so the music turns off when you transmit or receive incoming commo from your team mates. This attenuation setting is found in your discord settings under "voice and video". When you have this all operating its is an amazing setup. All can be done and run on one computer tower.

himespau 

You can even get fancy and stream your recording and have your discord and Zwift sound feed sent to both but a different music (digital rights free) sent to your stream than the playlist you have sent to your headphones. That took me a little while to get Voicemeeter Banana set to do that properly, but it works well now.

msu2001la

Does Zwift Power Live work outside of a race?

La Tortue

Active races, group rides, and events. But not 100% of the time.

La Tortue

PeteHski

While I'm a big fan of Zwift, there are weaknesses as a complete winter training tool. For example it's not great for structured training unless you are using a third party training program. Even then I prefer Wahoo SYSTM for structured workouts. I also enjoy the real world video based approach of Rouvy, especially when training for alpine climbs. Zwift can get a bit boring on long climbs. Where Zwift excels for me is group riding and virtual racing, although the drafting can be a bit quirky at times. I quite like the Zwift graphics too.

Hiro11

All of the dinosaurs, deserts and Japanese tea houses irritate me in Zwift. I find it distracting, unnecessary and annoying. I much prefer the stripped down, structured and adaptive approach of TrainerRoad. I use my Stages SB20 with TR, that's perfect for me.

unterhausen

I just wish they would update zwift less often. On a PC at least, they have improved the update enough that it doesn't hang 3 times, but it's still really annoying. It would be really nice if the "verifying files" part of the upgrade was included in the progress bar. And they still require login after many updates. I'm not sure why they couldn't remember me across an update.

bblair

The difficulty that I had in some of the Zwift alternatives was that my screen showed a cartoon bike in a real world. Really weird. I guess there was a way to change my view, but I didn't stick around long enough to experiment around.

Zwift is a cartoon bike in a cartoon world, as somehow that seems to work ok for me.

Sy Reene

Came across Cadesport. Looks like a fairly promising newer entrant in this space. Anyone using?
https://cadesport.com/

Ed Wiser

I have used it. It’s a fair program. If computer graphics is your jam.

WT21

I haven't been on Zwift that long. End of last winter season, and now this whole season. I like it. I'm level 21 at this point. The thing that bugs me a bit is they have a number of limited-route maps that seem to always be the ones available when I'm logging in. I'd like more access to Makuri, but my schedule doesn't seem to line up well with it. Also, disappointed to see how limited Scotland is. It seems they don't have much competition, so less incentive, and I've no idea how hard it is to code new worlds and successfully deploy them to their large installed base, but I'd just like to see more routes on their existing worlds. Not more worlds with limited routes. I'm concerned the addition of Scotland means I'll see Makuri even less, once Scotland hits regular rotation.

Ed Wiser

Zwift is a very boring platform as you use it you realize this. I use several cycling apps. My favorite is Rouvy. As there are so many routes. I never ride the same ones. An it is actual gps routes not made up routes. Example Scotland has no actual routes from Scotland. Just fak graphic buildings that kind of look like Scotland

unterhausen

That's my main complaint, I think I already made it in this thread. Most of the guest worlds have very few routes. I always seem to miss it when France is up in the rotation. You can do the hack and ride in any world you want, what's so hard about building it into the main interface? They might find out what worlds are actually popular with their users. Imagine that.

There are a couple of routes on Makuri that always are available with pace partners. I have been using that recently.

Sy Reene

Would I find there to be enough other users in the program yet, or would ever ride feel like I'm riding in the post-apocalypse? How are general physics, speed, gradients in-game -- somewhat realistic?